Does any active Heavyweight have a good resume?

I'd have to say Adamek and say what you want about Valuev but his been in the ring with Ruiz, Holyfield, Haye, Chagaev, Liatkovic, McCline and Donald. Admittedly some he lost and some were way past they best, but they are decent names and contenders on his record. Wlads resume can't be ignored because of his longevity and consistency, and he has fought a lot of top ten guys, it's just a lot are not very good. The Chisora match is doing him no favours. Vitali's record is ok and at least he fought a somebody.
Haye started well at cruiser but his record at heavy is pretty poor and dissapointing, and i am/was a fan.

 

How is Wlad Resume Awful you fuken dick?

Decent resume and ending up to be Very good resume.

 

Do you consider Tyson's resume to be good? How about Holmes?

 

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Rahman is a good shout. Although his inconsistent he does have some names on his record.

 

How ever I twist and turn Lewis' resume I can't see Wlad beating it with the opponents in the horizon. Adamek, Haye and Povetkin are not enough.. At least two more same caliber wins to boot those.

 

I do agree. But the gap between 80'es and 00/10 contenders isn't big at all.

 

No he wouldn't. it would take a drastic change in the perception of the depth of the division for Wlad to ever pass Lewis' resume. Fact is the majority of boxing fans believe the heavyweight division is **** poor at the moment, hence the lack of interest.

But that isn't Wlads fault. A better question for Wlad is, who else could he have beaten to improve his resume? There isn't much else he could have done to improve his record, it's not like he ever ducked an opponent.

The perception of the division is weak due to the fact that Wlads contenders avoid each other and so have terrible resume's, something Lewis didn't have to contend with, as in his era he had plenty of high profile top contenders and former champions with big fan bases who had proven themselves by beating other prospects, contenders and champions to flatter his record.

Sucks for Wlad that he will never have a great resume like Lewis but champions like Holmes who fought in weak era's proved their greatness despite their lack of top class opposition. I suspect after Wlad retires he will recieve more recognition much like Lewis and Holmes did after they retired.

 

Erm, slow down sailor. Wlad is a month shy of 35, so let's compare when Lewis was a month shy of 35.

Lewis:

Weaver
Briggs
Ruddock
Tucker
Bruno
Morrison
Mercer
McCall
Golota
Briggs
Holyfield
Mavroric
Grant
Botha

Wlad:
Schultz
Barret
Byrd
Botha
Mercer
McCline
Peter
Brock
Austin
Brewster
Ibragimov
Thompson
Chagaev
Chambers

Think I was being generous with Wlad. Anyway, Holyfield, Bruno, Tucker, Ruddock, Mercer, Golota, are much better wins than Byrd, Chambers, Peter, and Ibragimov. Most of Wlad's wins are closer to the Weaver, Morrison, Grant, Mavroric level. Hell, just a 98 Briggs would seem like a standout on that list.

And Lewis finished his career with Rahman, Tyson, Tua, and Vitali on his resume. Became a 3X HW champ and beat every fighter he ever faced. Can't say that for Wlad I'm afraid.

 

Just pointing out you forgot too add Gary Mason to Lewis' list. Mason a top ten contender against Lewis who was a 14 fight novice.

 

You are being generous with Lewis. 2000 prime Byrd win is on the level with 1999 Holyfield on the decline. 1993 Bruno wasn't even in top 10. Mercer lost to both. Chagaev, Ibragimov, Chambers, Peter, Brock is more impressive list than Tucker, Ruddock, Golota.

Lewis finished with Rahman (1-1 really), shot Tyson and Vitali so-called "win" (we know what happened). That's not that hard to surpass. Wlad is already over him in the number of title defenses.

 

Based on what, his win over Vitali? Holyfield was on the decline but he's an ATG HW. He was going into the fight with wins over Moorer and Tyson. That Holyfield would've been a far bigger threat than other fighter Wlad has beaten.

Says a lot about the quality difference in eras.

Mercer was a very good fighter... in the 90's.

Ibragimov drew with Austin and beat a shot Briggs and Holyfield. Golota at least competed with Bowe. Not to much he beat Sanders and drew with Byrd (Arguably Wlad's best win). He also fought Ruiz in a very close fight. If Ibragimov is better it's not by much. Tucker beat Douglas, Norris, and McCall and fought fairly well against Tyson (Relatively speaking). He's much better than Brock and Peter. And would pose as a far greater threat than any of the men Wlad beat there (Maybe bearing Peter). Ruddock is leagues above any of the guys you mentioned. Besides, you can splice and compare any list and try saying it's more impressive. That's 5 names to 3; half of those names aren't really very good. Lewis resume triumphs Wlads.

He also beat Tua who Wlad was in talks to fight. That would be another embarrassing left over for Klit fans to try and convince us is a great win because he faced Lewis. You guys clamored on about how Vitali did better against Briggs. Yet Lewis KOed a prime Briggs and Vitali couldn't put away a shot, HGH obese near 40 Briggs.

As for the Vitali fight. Not sure what you're trying to say. Are you suggesting that there's some grand conspiracy that caused Vitali to lose to Lewis? Lewis is one of only 3 HW champions to beat every man he faced.

 

We are talking about Holyfield who subsequently lost to Ruiz and Byrd. And Byrd beat Tua and scored wide UD over Holyfield in 2002.

Mercer was at career hight 238lb in Lewis fight. He was 228lb when he fought Wlad.

Golota beat Corey Sanders not Corrie Sanders (I know that can be confusing). It was the same Golota who lost to Grant and went the distance with Norris who Vitali KO-ed in the first round around the same time. Ruddock lost to every decent opponent he faced. I am not sure why you even bring him up here. His entire career highlight is UD loss to Tyson.

Here we go again. That's my favorite topic. I am suggesting that Lewis lost that fight on cards, the cut was caused by an illegal punch, the ref never saw how the cut was caused and it should have been TD win for Vitali.

 

wlad has a very good resume, but not a great resume. he beat a lot of top 5 fighters and hardly lost a round. his very good wins are imo byrd, mccline, thompson, chagaev, ibragimov, brock, chambers, brewster, peter, you have to look at the wins at the time he fought them. byrd was number 1, mccline was top 5, thompson was top 5, chagaev was top 3, ibragimov was top 3, brock top 5, chambaer top 5 and brewster top 5. so yeah it's a very good resume, but it's not his fault that he couldn't fight great names because there are no great names. if he goes on to beat adamek, haye and povetkin and an other young guy, then he will have a great resume but no where near to holyfield or lewis, because they fought in a great era. the era right now is not complete **** but it's not good. it' similar to the 80's era.