For those that think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily: Slap yourselves.

digiram · Dec 10, 2007

capfunds said:

Floyd ain't quicker than Judah.
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Maybe not for the first 2 rounds , but Floyd was ready to KTFO Zab in the 10th anyhow. He was stalking him from the 5th round and up, and yes Floyd's punches were hitting Zab before he could even think about countering.

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

B Ump

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

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the_truth · Dec 10, 2007

mr. magoo said:

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?
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the fight with DLH is the most marketable and best for cotto, he wants to stay active, mayweather wants to take some time off... cotto has to do whats best for him, hes been taking risk and now its time for him to start seeing that money for his family as he truly deserves it...

the_truth · Dec 10, 2007

Guru_Too_You said:

Funny but after all that talk, Cotto is going after De La Hoya. Another one of Floyd's leftovers. If they wanted the bout with Floyd, they would have at least TRIED to make it happen considering its the biggest fight in boxing right now.

This isnt the first time team Cotto has run in the other direction.
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you cant make a fight happend if the other fighter wants to take some time off...atsch cotto has to continue and make a name for himself, and a fight with DLH is the best thing for him... and as for fighting leftovers, i dont believe DLH or judah were leftovers, they both were very competitive against mayweather and were never badly hurt... lets just give you an example of what a leftover is a Fernando Vargas or Ricardo Mayorga when they first fought Trinidad and DLH then fought them after...

Stezzie · Dec 10, 2007

capfunds said:

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. atsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

atsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.
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He couldn't come in at an angle because have you noticed that PBF doesnt stand still? His ring generalship is great he takes the angle away by moving...

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

Stezzie said:

He couldn't come in at an angle because have you noticed that PBF doesnt stand still? His ring generalship is great he takes the angle away by moving...
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If you can't get the angle, you can still get the boxer off balance by throwing a jab.

Hatton wasn't doing this either.

saul_ir34 · Dec 10, 2007

I hope Cotto does go after DLH. THat will make him a superstar like it did to Floyd. Floyd wasnt **** until he fought Oscar. He is the ticket to super stardom. Then once Cottos stock has risen Mayweather might want to risk his first loss or second if you count the Castillo fight. Lets hope this happens

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

Where are all of PBF's boys at?

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

Where are all of PBF's boys at?

usc2005 · Dec 10, 2007

Ok the only thing that would be different in this fight is the raw POWER that cotto brings to this fight. If you watch cotto its hard to hit him...in the jaw because he hides behind his gloves well and he tuckes his chin. Other than that floyd will have a tea party with cotto. Mainly focusing on the top of the forehead like he did to hatton and all the other pressure fighters he has done. Floyd is smart and i dont think he would ALLOW cotto to go to that body. This will be another clinic put on by floyd. Just TOO much speed and elusivness on mayweathers part.

Scar · Dec 10, 2007

Truth is, Floyd doesn't give a ****. Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that this won't go the distance either.

BITCH ASS · Dec 10, 2007

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eze · Dec 10, 2007

Truth is, Cotto needs Floyd not vice versa. And Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that their fight if it happened would not go the distance.

Corley has Cotto hurt and Cotto gets a hometown stoppage.

amunz81 · Dec 10, 2007

corley also had PBF hurt, so dont start that! and if it wouldnt of gotten stopped corley would of been hurt very badly! he voluntarily went to a knee several times, that says something!!!

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