Finally watched Ali-Berbick

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bokaj, Feb 19, 2011.


  1. Lobotomy

    Lobotomy Guest

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  2. RoosterC

    RoosterC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Berbick was a bum.
     
  3. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched this fight a long time ago and I remember I had Berbick winning by a strange score of 4 rounds to 1 with 5 rounds even. Maybe I'll watch it again sometime next week.
     
  4. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bok,

    Tuff and rugged Berbick really did very little damage to an already ailing Ali in 1981... If anything transpired in terms of hurt, Ali sustained a case of sore ribs afterward...

    I scored it basically 6 to 4 Berbick over Ali after 10 so-so rds.... Ali still boxed and moved, but his jab was a push and his leg speed was reduced to normal...

    Berbick won by hustling over the 10 rds and being a tad more busy overall... Nothing fancy or special occurred...

    MR.BILL:bbb
     
  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's more or less how I had it. Berbick won four of the last five for me, since Ali had virtually stopped fighting at that point. But when he still had any gas he got the better of Berbick. Somehow he even managed to rock him a bit occassionaly.

    This with no speed, not much reflexes left and no snap to his punches.
     
  6. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ali had nothing left in his right hand - very very weak. his time was well over.
     
  7. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Ok moron, if Berbick was a bum, then every single one of Wlad's opponents was a bum too. :deal
     
  8. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He only said that because he's a Tyson hater Tyson beat Berbick so he wants to discredit Mike by saying Berbick was a "bum". He was good and much better than the crap heavyweight contenders we have nowadays.
     
  9. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, Ali's later fights is a good watch to get a hold of his technique. When he no longer had the physical abilities to pull off his more fantastic moves you can see the fundamentals shining through more clearly.

    For example, look at this clip of the final round against Shavers. All through the round an exhausted Ali gives Shavers angles and rolls with his punches, which rarely lands clean in this round, and towards the end he really puts on a clinic. Watch him tearing Shavers up at mid-range from 2.00 onwards in the clip. It's beautiful how he does it, considering the shape he's in (he says himself he doesn't remember anything of the fight after the second round):

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Yi-7YdmtU[/ame]
     
  10. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    the man was finished long before those fights.cant watch those last few fights again.ali took too many shots in all his last fights
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Shavers told Larry Merchant that he felt he won the fight.

    But I believe he changed his mind after watching it on a video.
     
  12. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, I bought the video from the record store yrs ago and it has all the behind scenes that clearly show Ali looking ample in weight and slurring his words... Ali was a shell by 1981... He was also very sick with Park's syndrome, but didn't truly realize it yet....

    MR.BILL:hat
     
  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh yes...! It would have been marvelous if Ali had retired after Manilla !
     
  14. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    lol what about Bummy Brewster And Fat Old Golfer Sanders???

    Are they not even shittier "bums"?! :yep:deal

    Bums dont look as mint as Trev Berbick did VS Pinko Thomas.

    Foreman Hooook!:smoke
     
  15. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Berbick did surprise a lot of people in that fight,did n't he...?