If Floyd retires now he's in league with Marciano

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JET, Dec 10, 2007.


  1. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    People like to say that a champ is judged by how he comes back from defeat, but if the champ doesn't lose then you have to judge him on that. Marciano is still underrated, but bottom line is he overcame the odds and retired undefeated. As for PBF: Judah was supposed to be too fast, Baldomir too big, Gatti too powerful, ODH too big and skilled, Hatton too aggressive, Castillo too vicious, Corrales too big, strong, and aggressive, but all of them fell in defeat to PBF. The man beat champs and he's done it effectively for the past 10 years whether we like him or not. So, although I think he will be vastly underrated as an ATG (just like Rocky) if he retires undefeated the fact is HE IS AN ATG.
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Floyd HAS to take the Cotto fight. It makes no sense if he doesn't because Cotto is undefeated and has fought much better opposition than Hatton. If he doesn't take the fight eventually, it's bull****. You aren't p4p number one or an ATG if you don't take the fights that are there. Everyone else we still remember did. Duran took every big fight there was, as did Leonard, Hearns, and Hagler. Floyd HAS to fight Cotto, he has no choice. That's my opinion, anyhow.
     
  3. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good points but I'm a bit more amazed by Marciano though:

    1) He had something like 15 amatuer fights
    2) He began his pro career in his mid 20's
    3) He beat 4 all time greats: Louis, Walcott, Charles, Moore. Granted they were pretty old, like DLH
    4) He had a huge KO raito
    5) He won 49 times, Floyd needs 10 more.

    Still Floyd's fantastic.
     
  4. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    You guys [Black and Arranio] are proving my point. The same way you are dogging Marciano's undefeated record is the same way people will dog PBF's and say he was never tested. I am not comparing their level of comp and I am not saying they are on the same level skill-wise. What I am saying is that PBF is an ATG, but will be underrated just like your underrating Rocky now becuase we never found out how he would respond to a loss.
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol: at all the Marciano haters.
     
  6. ralphc

    ralphc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marciano's so called record was beaten before and after he set it.
     
  7. PACZ

    PACZ Czarnina-Sippin []ing Fan Full Member

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    He Didn't Pick His Fights. He Fought The Best Avaliable. He Left With No Underfeateds Behind Him......MARCIANO!
     
  8. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unfortunataley people tend to ignore the lightest weights. Don't kid yourself though Marciano if anything is underrated.
     
  9. la punta

    la punta New Member Full Member

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    you are a joker, i bet you dont rate white fighters do you????, every post you write all sound the same , go slap yourself:bbb
     
  10. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    This thread sucks.
     
  11. la punta

    la punta New Member Full Member

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    yes, and he was knocking out men when he was a kid, tyson based himself on the greatman himself, i am black, but i feel most black peolpe on here hate to rate white fighters, and tht pisses me off,
     
  12. PRproud

    PRproud Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather is not undefeated he was defeated by Castillo,, even if it doesn't appears on his record, i saw that fight
     
  13. la punta

    la punta New Member Full Member

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    go slap yourself dumbass
     
  14. usc2005

    usc2005 "THE BEST" Full Member

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    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!:good :good :good :good :good :good :happy Somebody with some sense on here....
     
  15. la punta

    la punta New Member Full Member

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    thts my point, dumbass iam right and your not, rocky was the man, up there with ali, dempsy, and joe lous:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb