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Sounds like you are not a bonafide "Klitschko Hater" then.

The true Klitschko Haters will use anyone and anything to try to discredit the brothers. They tend to focus on whoever the next "savior" will be who will rescue them from the brothers' dominance of the division. Currently, that man is David Haye (though some hold out hope for Solis as well).

As I said in my post, I have seen Klitschko Derangement Syndrome manifest before. You might not be a sufferer, and that's awesome. Then what I said doesn't apply to you.

You can see the same thing often these days with Manny Pacquiao. There are a group of people who will use anything, any argument, to try to diminish Pacquiao. They are now trying to convince themselves, and others, that Shane Mosley just might be able to get the job done and help knock Pacquiao off of the top spot. They still bring up the drug testing ruse even after it's long been exposed as either irrelevant or biased.

There's nothing wrong with trying to break down a fighter or a matchup honestly. Nothing wrong with rooting for, or against, a fighter. The "hating" thing goes far beyond these boundaries, though. Just as I'm sure the "protect the fighter I like" matter can go beyond those boundaries.

 

Because as a neutral observer, I'm allowed to view the situation and post my thoughts and opinion on it. I agree with a lot of the criticism of the Klitschkos from a stylistic point of view as far as entertainment, but in my opinion they're more in the right throughout this entire situation than Haye is. Why? Because I've been following what each man has said and done over a couple years. "Haye has no right to tell Wlad who he can or cannot face before he fights Haye." in rebuttal to the Chisora point. Please explain to me how that statement is bullsh*t. I'd love to hear this logic.

But this goes to the crux of the matter, because I counterpost some of your points, I'm posting bullsh*t? That's incredibly illogical defensive posting on your part. Why are you so defensive here? What are you scared of? You made points, I provided a rebuttal to some of the points where I never insulted you, and you respond by insulting me. There's zero difference between how you posted your post above and the politician that criticizes everyone that doesn't buy his policy items hook, line, and sinker.

I'm not a Pacquiao fan or a Mayweather fan for example, but if I post on the topic in favor of Pacquiao based on my personal beliefs viewing the matter and each man's behavior as a neutral observer, according to your line of thinking that makes me a *******? Grow the f*ck up.

 

No, you said something remotely postive about Wlad..you are an obvious nuthugger/delusional/fanbody..etc.

The hypocrispy from Shaun and most "haters" is beyond obvious.

 

Oh my God, you're actually doing it again.

I didn't say that you couldn't comment, I wouldn't be so ridiculous. I'd be more than happy to discuss the points I made about the Klitschko fans - but that's not what you did, you just posted a load of stuff about David Haye that has zero relevance to the things I said.

The point of my post was that the majority of so called 'Klitschko haters' are not, it's just that if you disagree with their fanboys then that's what you're labelled. I then listed things that have recently seen me labelled a 'hater'. With that in mind, let's look at what you wrote in response:

- Only Brits think that Haye is a great fighter (what does this have to do with what I wrote?)
- That Haye hasn't been tested by a great fighter either (where did I say he had?)
- That Haye was wrong to tell Wlad who he could fight (did I say it wasn't?)

I said that what you posted was 'bull****' because all you did was ignore the actual point of my post and just talk about Haye. If you could point out what Haye never having been tested by a great fighter or only being highly rated by Brits has to do with me asserting that Klitschko fans dismiss anyone who disagrees with them as 'haters' then I'd like to hear it.

 

some people think haye has no chance [why?]if he has no chance the fight would have been made by now.they are not bums we have a real fight on our hands

 

i think he has a chance against Wlad, forget about Vitali. Wlad panicks when faced with a good fighter. He becomes stiff and hesistant. Haye could give him problems. I recall his fight with Ibragimov. He refused to trade and was very protective of his chin. maybe i am wrong, ive been wrong before, but, this could be a fight people didnt expect. Vitali's chin will keep him the fight. With Wlad, the fight is a little mor even. i love these type of fights, anything could happen

 

Nice try

 

ye,youle find most klitschko fans will totally ignore what you say about klitschkos and not bother defending them,just will turn it away from your point and rip into Haye.

 

I think it will be announced soon as Haye vs Wlad. ,but wlad wont be able and wont want to train himself short for haye,and it will be vitali vs Haye in July,then Haye vs Wlad in october.

Vitali is still powerful and tough,but not as poweful as he once was,he is a lot slower now too,he has his hands low,all he does to defend is lean back,his punches arent fast and are not accurate agaisnt a moving target.

Haye will make vitali feel old,will beat him to the punch,will be able to land 3 punch combinations at the right times and get out of range and away before vitali can react.

And if Haye can rock valuev when he damaged his right hand,he can sure as hell hurt vitali.

Haye will destroy wlad,he will take away wlads right hands by pawing and slipping the jab,without the jab the right hands dont happen.
Wlad will not land,he will see and dislike hayes hand speed and quick movement/quicker footwork. Haye will make wlad have to chase him,force wlad to hit while on the move.Wlad will panic,get tense,lose energy and get countered by Haye and fall to the ground like a messy drunken b&tch does.

Haye has the strenght and speed to punish wlad should he try clinch and lean on him.

People will think im talking b/s and that this is crazy for me to say this.but their hate blinds them to properly analyse this fight and how Haye can win it.

 

vitaly will destroy haye, like he destroy hide!

 

:yep :bbb :happy

 

Vitali/Haye July
Wlad/Haye Oct.

Haye winning both fights...ok, Nostradamus we'll wait and see what happens. :blood

 

So um...when's the announcement due? Did something leak?

 

I'm curious as well.