Can ATG status be attained without a trial by fire?

Bill Butcher · Mar 2, 2011

Another hidden poll :-(, Im not telling you which option I voted for & Im not commenting on this ****.

Im outta here.

Jorodz · Mar 2, 2011

good conversation so far and my vote is with the others arguing "yes", using examples like jones and (possibly) wlad

petre · Mar 2, 2011

Vanboxingfan said: ↑

That's a pretty decent response. I also think one's potential plays into it a bit. For example someone said Jones, yes Jones is an ATG but what could he have done if he pushed himself to the point that he dared to loose. PBF is pretty much in the same boat.

I think it's Mag65 I keep arguing about with Duran cause he says when Duran stepped up he usually lost. And my point is, yes, but he stepped up, he dared to step into the ring with Hagler and give it his best shot. There's no guessing what he could have done, he pushed his boundaries to the limit. Neither Jones or PBF have done that. Pac has.
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Ricky Hatton is a Good example of this, just needed a little bit more quantity :good

the_baller · Mar 2, 2011

Not really, because nowadays you just need a clip on youtube and 100 idiot fans on ESB and you are a legend.:-(

jeffjoiner · Mar 2, 2011

How can I make the poll open?

des3995 · Mar 2, 2011

Vanboxingfan said: ↑

That's a pretty decent response. I also think one's potential plays into it a bit. For example someone said Jones, yes Jones is an ATG but what could he have done if he pushed himself to the point that he dared to loose. PBF is pretty much in the same boat.

I think it's Mag65 I keep arguing about with Duran cause he says when Duran stepped up he usually lost. And my point is, yes, but he stepped up, he dared to step into the ring with Hagler and give it his best shot. There's no guessing what he could have done, he pushed his boundaries to the limit. Neither Jones or PBF have done that. Pac has.
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Kel1981 said: ↑

To be the best or to even be considered among the best you have to seek out the best. Even if you think they might have your number, or you fear them slightly, you ****ing go for the fight regardless and believe you will win.

Fight the best out there, win or lose and you will always be remembered and your legacy will stand.
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This is the truth.

DKD · Mar 2, 2011

Genuine ATG's have all gone beyond the call of duty.

As for Duran, he more than proved himself. I cannot understand how anyone doesn't rate him. He's a bonafide top 10 ATG, no question. Win, lose or draw Duran would give any other P4P ATG the fight of their life!

(PS much as I can't stand his defensive, spoiling style Mayweather is legit, with a good resume - not fair to compare him to the likes of Calzaghe or the Klits.)

GTSK · Mar 2, 2011

Nonito became an ATG after knocking out Vic and knocking Montiel out made him #2 P4P.

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