Is this the blueprint on how to beat Wladimir Klitschko?

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  1. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe, but they don't have the power to stun Wlad.

    Wlad is so improved and flawless now right? Kind of. His balance is better now and he fights more alert but he's still very flawed. His height and opponents who lack speed and skilled aggression have definitely also helped him lately.

    Check this video of the 1st round of the "New Wlad". Watch carefully and critically how he approaches the 1st round compared to the Sanders fight. I see many of the same flaws. Examples: no head movement, stays on one spot with the jab fully extended and not protecting his face, missing with left hooks that leave him wide open, when Chambers attacks, he doesn't move sideways but kind of covers up and bends back, is predictable in his punching approach ( Chambers even lands a good right at about 1:41, leans in open for an uppercut, retreats with jab down at 1:14, pawing with a lazy jab leaving him open over the top to straight rights. Did I miss anything? :lol:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSzsI54u9oc[/ame]
     
  2. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, quite a bit :huh

    Wlad no longer leans in
    his foot work is far better
    his use and control of distance is far better
    He is faster
    Has a wider variey of effective punches

    Just watching the sanders fight...Wlad was a KO waiting to happen
     
  3. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you didn't see flaws that could be exploited? Chambers also hit him with a decent hook towards the end of the round too. I see so many things that you could exploit in his defense that an intelligent and athletic fighter should be able to use against him. If Haye and his trainer do their homework and then put the plan into action, then Wlad could be exposed again for those shortcomings, because Haye certainly has the ability. You can't just stand in front of Wlad though and do nothing. You gotta put some punches together and try to hurt him, especially in the 1st few rounds where he's still getting set.
     
  4. Farmboxer

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    Vlad did not train for the Sanders fight. Lifted weigths, did not spar with a southpaw, did not know who Sanders was. Sanders had been training for a long time, was in best shape of his life, his weight was only 225 and for his height, that was nothing. Sanders had been training to fight Valouev in South Africa. Vlad had come off a fantastic win over Jameel McCline. Vlad wanted to fight the best, yet Klaus Peter Kohl chose Sanders. I knew how good Sanders really was, warned a member of Team Klitschko, Klaus Peter Kohl, posted this at ESB years ago "before" the fight, also on Boxing.de, etc. Corrie had the name of "Sniper" and for a very good reason. Vlad came in cold on top of it all. Corrie could have been a world champion for years, could have won gold medal, but was blacklisted because he was from South Africa. Lewis admitted that he had avoided Sanders. Vlad would have beaten him in a rematch, but Corrie would not give rematch. Corrie had the tools, quickness, power, and power of "surprise". Haye has none of that. Haye will have to deliver his punches, almost impossible. This will end up a mismatch. Vlad by knockout.
     
  5. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He probably was in great shape and motivated but the announcers said that Sanders had fought a total of 3 rounds, in three years before he fought Wlad. As far as the McCline fight, I though that Wlad looked like crap in there. He was stiff and one dimensional, and he had the same approach against Sanders, but payed the price.
     
  6. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of those traits you mention ARE there but because of his adjustments I dont think they can be exploited.

    Wlads punches are straighter now as well AND he also hits harder due to refined techniqure via Manny steward..

    Very difficult task for Haye.

    If he does have a master plan he better hope Vitali doesnt step in at the last minute.
     
  7. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. BigBone

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  9. Tully

    Tully Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "Same move every time"
     
  10. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye can't afford to stay on the outside for too long and hope to land shots. Most opponents do that and end up getting jabbed to death. I think the key is to mix it up, be unpredictable, mix up fast inside flurries with a bit of aggressive counter punching from the outside, don't allow Wlad to work you out and that would offset his timing and range.

    Does Haye have the goods to do this though? that's the question.
     
  11. AJ5

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    IDK but someone's got to come up with a better strategy in dealing with his hugging and putting his weight down on his opponent then Eddie Chamber's plan of picking him up because he definitely doesn't want to fight inside.
     
  12. MickeyBlueEyess

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    Byrd, maybe, slow fat Eddie Chambers no, just no.

    On top of that both are feather fisted, Chambers just stood in front of Wlad with his hands up, great tactic fat Eddie.

    Haye can punch from any angle with both hands with serious power, if Wlad paws that jab you better believe a right hand will be smacking him right on the chin.

    Haye is all wrong for Wlad.
     
  13. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The trouble with this is Sanders went all out because he had too, that was his only hope of winning. Haye is just an all around better fighter than him. If Sanders fought Waldimir ten times, he would most likely get ko'd 90% by Wald, he just got lucky the first time.
    Haye imo, will fight smart, try to box, get in and out, and counterpunch.
     
  14. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    no, that is a youtube video