Today's Sergio vs The Winky who shut out Tito ?

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  1. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Time for a bump, here.
     
  2. sosolid4u09

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    wow. what a tough decision. tough tough decision. AT THIS point its very hard to bet against Sergio. But Winky at his best is a defensive master. Problem is that Sergio is such an awkward fighter.

    i would probably have to say Winky by CLOSE CLOSE decision. great matchup though :good
     
  3. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wright gives him all sorts of trouble with that defense and the way he's willing to throw.
     
  4. BOXING/MMAFAN

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    who wins Joshua Clottey or Winkey Wright i wonder if either would throw a punch God imagine that fight??! lol i dnt know why the hell i thought of that just now, about the topic id have to go with Wright
     
  5. KnuckleUp99

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    Stylistic nightmare for Sergio.....I think Martinez wins some early rounds but ends up getting systematically picked apart over 12 rounds by Wink. The Jab of winky in my opinion would take Sergio's away from him. Wink by UD.
     
  6. kirk

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    hmmm.... very very good fight :think

    Im leaning towards Winky, but Im just not sure. Very competetive. I think Sergio has a shot if he keeps it moving, circling, keeps his activity rate high, work around that guard. But winky is no clottey, a prime winky is a very hard guy to deal with regardless of styles.... I would have loved to see this fight.
     
  7. kirk

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    Im sure there are a few slipping my mind, but Winky stands out right now, in that Ive never seen a more succesful fighter that is just so basic nothing special about winky at all, just a basic guy, but he does what he needs to do win fights and hes simply got some underrated, underrated strength. It takes a lot of fortitude and strength to walk guys down behind a shell like that, and while hes not a power puncher, he punches with enough authority to keep guys honest, and for as much as everyone liked to call him boring, in reality the man never quit coming, shooting that southpaw jab and forcing opponents to back up.

    I think Sergio could win this, but it would be a good fight and it would be going the distance.
     
  8. Rock0052

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    While Winky's obviously the superior fighter to Dzinziruk, there is a stylistic similarity, and I just can't get over how easily Sergio solved that more basic style, even when executed well. Granted Winky kind of defied the odds as it was by being as successful as he was with it, but it's just too hard for me to pick against Sergio in this matchup, and I carry a lot of respect for Wright. Maybe it's the post-fight hangover talking, but my money's on Maravilla.
     
  9. EJDiaZ

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  10. Vitor Belfort

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    Winky couldn't be hit that night. He pretty much blocked most of tito's shots. Winky wins by UD.
     
  11. JMP

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    Ronald

    Special defense, nice accuracy, and more compact and less wild punches. Martinez would be a tough puzzle to solve though, but as the rounds go by, I think Winky takes control.
     
  12. J.R.

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    I think both guys have offenses tailor mad to exploit each other's defenses.

    Fighters like Pavlik and Dzinzirk proved that if you step to Martinez with good fundamental skill you can exploit that hands down defense of his. Where as we all know that angles can open up that iron Winky Wright guard, and Sergio has just the kind of style and quickness to pull that off.

    Overall, I see it as a very tight and closely contested fight. Whoever the winner is I don't think either guy will seperate themselves by more than a point or two the the time the scorecards are read.
     
  13. divac

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    Agreed!

    Its nearly impossible to attack that turtle shell defense from the front as Trinidad went at Winky.

    ......but when you attack it at angles with footwork and from the sides as Pacquiao did vs Clottey......the high workrate fighter going at it in that manner will win a decision.

    I know Winky was on the downside when he lost to Paul Williams, but Williams always attacked Winky from the laterals and hardly ever head on.
    Williams dominated!
     
  14. elchivito

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    Tito had accumulative power up to 160, but lacked speed and defense. Sergio, on the other hand, has one punch power and has one of the best offense and defense on the planet. He's a smaller southpaw version of Roy Jones in RJ mode. Winky doesn't have the power to hurt or humble Martinez and his southpaw jab would give Sergio slight problems, but Winky would get countered by Sergio. Winky used his massive body to push back fighters like Shane and Tito that were face first, come forward power punchers. Sergio is not that, anyone with a brain knows he is a boxer first with mobility being his best weapon. His power was untapped and until recently has been taking advantage of it for a deadly combination. Winky overpowered his opponents he would never overpower Sergio. Sergio beats him in every dept. Sergio has an underrated jab as well I don't see Winky winning that battle either. It would look like a 154lb version of Pacquiao vs Clottey.
     
  15. Royal-T-Bag

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    Martinez' speed, work rate, foot work and angles would allow him to get around Winky's guard. Close fight but I got Sergio by decision.