One word answers: who wins these fights?

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  1. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Analysis is overrated.

    Give me a guttural grunt one way or the other for these fights:


    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern


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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather
    Martinez
    Morales
    Lora
    Herrera
    Rose
    Marquez
    Ramirez
    Randall
    Gonzalez
    Park
    Jones
    Nunn
    Cokes
    Palomino
    Davey
    Margarito
    Barrera
    Marquez
    Chandler
    Maxim
    Hill
    Valdez
    Benitez
    Taylor (very tight one)
    Curry (sooooo close, Curry had better bring his A game)
    Griffith on talent, neck and neck on hairline

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  3. El Indio

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    Some of those guys i havent seen nowhere near enough to make a solid prediction, but **** it i will have a go.

    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140- Cotto KO

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 Martinez UD

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 Winstone UD

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Lora UD

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 Herrera UD

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 Rose UD

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 JMM UD

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 Johnston SD

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 Mgirt UD

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 Draw

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 Park KO

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 Jones UD

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 Nunn UD

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 Starling SD

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 Palomino UD

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 Davey UD

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 Margarito UD

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 Barrera UD

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 Marquez KO

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 Chandler SD

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 Maxim UD

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 Hill UD

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 Valdez KO

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Norris SD

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 Stable KO

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 Curry UD
     
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  4. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 - Cotto

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 - Martinez

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 - Morales (close)

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 - Lora

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 - Herrera

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 - Rose

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 - JMM

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135- Ramirez

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 - McGirt

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 - Rosario

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 - I don´t know nothing about Ibarra

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 - Dawson, Tarver and PAscal....Jones beat GJ

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 - Nunn

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 - Starling

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 - I don´t know enough about Simon....

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 - Davey

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 - Margarito

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 - MAB

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 - Marquez

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 - Close, man what a close fight....Chandler

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 - Toney

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 - Hill all day

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 - Valdez

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 - Benitez (but in my opinion very tight one)

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 - Taylor

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 - Donald Curry

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern - EG
     
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  5. natonic

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    Picks highlighted.
     
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  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Maybe I´m underrating Roger Mayweather, Cokes and Gonzalez here.....
     
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  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks like most are in agreement so far. Bit surprised by that...

    Here's my take:

    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 - Mayweather

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 - Vasquez

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 - Winstone

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 - Draw

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 - Draw

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 - Rose

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 - Unsure

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 - Ramirez

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 - McGirt (just)

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 - Gonzalez

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 - Ibarra

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 - Doug may beat 3 but not all 4 on the same night

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 - Fullmer

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147 - Starling

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 - Draw

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 - Davey

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 - Rivera

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 - Barrera

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 - Zaragoza

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 - Unsure

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 - Maxim

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 - Griffin

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 - Valdez

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 - Benitez

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144 - Stable

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 - Turner

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern -Eubank (just get the sense he really embraced the sawn-off clown look)
     
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  8. WhataRock

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    Nah they were hard ones to pick..not to much film of Cokes and Gonzalez available..I really couldnt honestly say how Cokes does against someone like Starling, so picking either guy there is fine IMO.

    Ol Rog was getting a bit long in the tooth at 140, though on reflection he moved up earlier then I remember actually...No biggie to say a fairly impressive physical specimen like Cotto could knock him off or send him into super defensive mode like Tsyzu did...but he looked a bit fragile against lesser fighters than Mayweather...who still did pack a wallop in his right and whilst older, was wiser and trickier aswell.
    To tell you the truth Roger at his best beats Cotto...You might be thinking of the older Roger, whom likely doesnt beat Miguel.
     
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  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154- 50/50

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118- 50/50

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126- 50/50

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175- Assuming the "on the same night" bit was tongue-in-cheek.

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160- Probably need to watch more of the Don.

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147- 50/50

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147- Uncertain

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147- Uncertain

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118- 50/50

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147- 50/50

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern
     
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  10. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    hmmm....
    Yeah, yeah, and to be honest Whatarock I need to watch more of prime Roger.....
     
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  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good
     
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  12. Duranium

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    you bunch of shithouses, Roger Mayweather is a class below Cotto
     
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  13. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At 140 Mayweather/Cotto is actually a pretty rough call. Both men had shaky chins, but Mayweather wasn't quite as physically advantageous at this weight as he was at the others. That said, he did seem to be a more conservative, intelligent boxer as his rematch with Chavez showed. The Brazier fight was a very good technical box-off as well. I think he'd probably take a close, but clear decision over Cotto. Possibly a stoppage.
     
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  14. the cobra

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    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern
     
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  15. ripcity

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    Roger Mayweather vs. Miguel Cotto @ 140 Roger Mayweather

    Sergio Martinez vs. Julio Cesar Vasquez @ 154 Julio Cesar Vasquez

    Howard Winstone vs. Erik Morales @ 126 Erik Morales

    Eijiro Murata vs. Miguel Lora @ 118 Miguel Lora

    Jose Medel vs. Rafael Herrera @ 118 Rafael Herrera

    Raul Macias vs. Lionel Rose @ 118 Lionel Rose

    Antonio Gomez vs. Juan Manuel Marquez @ 126 Juan Manuel Marquez

    Stevie Johnston vs. Jose Luis Ramirez @ 135 Jose Luis Ramirez

    Frankie Randall vs. Buddy McGirt @ 140 Buddy McGirt

    Rodolfo Gonzalez vs. Edwin Rosario @ 135 Edwin Rosario

    Chan Hee Park vs. Luis Ibarra @ 112 Someone

    Doug Jones vs. Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal on the same night @ 175 Chad Dawson, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Jean Pascal

    Michael Nunn vs. Don Fullmer @ 160 Michael Nunn

    Marlon Starling vs. Curtis Cokes @ 147
    Marlon Starling

    Simon Brown vs. Carlos Palomino @ 147 Carlos Palomino

    Chuck Davey vs. Jose Luis Lopez @ 147 Jose Luis Lopez

    Antonio Margarito vs. Wilfredo Rivera @ 147 Wilfredo Rivera

    Mike Ayala vs. Marco Antonio Barrera @ 126 Marco Antonio Barrera

    Daniel Zaragoza vs. Rafael Marquez @ 118 Daniel Zaragoza

    Jeff Chandler vs. Orlando Canizales @ 118 Jeff Chandler

    Joey Maxim vs. James Toney @ 175 Joey Maxim

    Montell Griffin vs. Virgil Hill @ 175 Virgil Hill

    Rodrigo Valdez vs. Sumbu Kalambay @ 160 Sumbu Kalambay

    Terry Norris vs. Wilfred Benitez @ 154 Terry Norris

    Meldrick Taylor vs. Jose Stable @ catchweight of 144
    Meldrick Taylor

    Gil Turner vs. Donald Curry @ 147 Donald Curry

    Emile Griffith's balding pattern vs. Chris Eubank's balding pattern Chris Eubank's balding pattern
     
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