I just watched PBF v Judah & Cotto v Judah..

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Ashy Knucks, Dec 13, 2007.


  1. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    I agree, Judah is one of the best boxers when it comes to great starts. I can't remember seeing a fight where he didn't win the first 2 rounds atleast. Just like every fight he lost, he started great, then fell apart. Look at the fight we ZOO, Mayweather and Cotto. He won the first round clearly.
     
  2. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The fouls are the only thing that saved Zab from getting stopped by Floyd. Even after the fouls Floyd told Roger he wanted to stop him but Roger told Floyd to coast. Cotto gave Zab a life altering beating though. There's no way in hell I will deny that!
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Grew up in New York, spent the last seven years in Boston, made the return!
     
  4. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    So.
     
  5. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Your in NYC.....:p

    We should spar

    What's your class?
     
  6. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Then you wonder why people think your like Orishman. :patsch
     
  7. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    against Floyd Zab was completely broken down , and taken apart .
    Zab was moment from being KOed until the foul and the ring Riot .
     
  8. Ashy Knucks

    Ashy Knucks Prize Fighter Full Member

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    Yea I tend to agree.. Although I think I would've rather seen the riot and PBF's reaction to his low blow :lol:
     
  9. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just because Cotto beat Judah in a more dramatic fashion doesnt change my prediction should Money boy fight Cotto. Hell, Kostya finished Judah off a lot quicker than these two and that was when Judah was flying high.....and dancing low :)
     
  10. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think your missing the point here .. Floyd took Zab apart with out suffering any damage and with ease and was on his way to Koing Zab till the foul, Cotto won by KO but look at the punishment he took and Cotto KOed Zab in the same round Floyd was about to stop Zab in before Zab fouled Floyd to save himself.
     
  11. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    This is my first post on the forum so perhaps I should probably not start arguing with people RIGHT away, but...

    Did you even see rounds 8-10 in the fight with Floyd? Zab was moments away from being knocked out. The only time Floyd opens up with right hooks like that is when he's moments away from a knockout or stoppage, or at least thats how its been in his past fights.

    You can say Cotto's performance looks more impressive in the record books, but if the action hadn't been stopped in Zab's fight with Floyd, then he would have scored a knockout as well, and it wouldn't matter. Comparing their performances against Zab doesn't mean much in my opinion because the outcome should have been the same (late round KO/TKO), and also because Zab fought the fights in two different styles. Against Floyd it seems to me he tried to be the aggressor, and against Cotto he tried to counterpunch (And landed a couple of beautiful uppercuts btw). Hard to really get much out of comparing the two fights in my opinion.

    Zab may have won early rounds but it wasn't on clean punching, it was on aggression, he didn't land that much. In fact even though in the Cotto fight he still didnt land that much, its pretty clear Judah hurt Cotto more than he hurt Mayweather. One of those uppercuts seemed very effective.

    And ****, what happened to 'styles makes fights'? Just cause fighter A beats fighter B blah blah blah..
     
  12. Ashy Knucks

    Ashy Knucks Prize Fighter Full Member

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    Precisely.. its how they fought.. not the outcome.. see my first post..
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Iv debated and argued this point many times but Floyd haters refuse intel and detail of both fights and are stuck on absolute .. :-(

    It this thinking IMO that got Ricky KOed thinking he could walk through floyd punches because , floyd fail to KO a guy who suppose to have weak chin but not paying any attention to the way Zab was dominated.

    In the end All Floyd victims al say the same thing , he hit a lot harder then he leads you to believe , he's a lot harder to hit then I thought , He's a lot faster then I thought and his skill are far better then I was LEAD to believe.
     
  14. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    yeah b/c it had nothing to do with Floyd making an adjustment. Just ignore that floyd started to use a winky wright type high guard and pressure Judah. Forget the body shots he landed that started to break judah down. It was all Judah's and no credit to PBF. ****ing hater, step your boxing IQ up boy.
     
  15. sambob

    sambob Active Member Full Member

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    In response to the 'Floyd hits harder than you think' think, also I think a lot of people forget that even though Floyd's hand speed is so great that he can get off punches before his opponents even have time to get their guard up, often they still don't even see his punches coming. He's very good at sneaking in that straight right hand, a la Bernard Hopkins or his uncle Roger. If you don't even know a punch is going to hit you it always seems much more powerful.