Who has the weakest/best set of "TOP 5 WINS" from this selection of our era's best?

Calzaghe no doubt. He has two good wins, that's about it.

 

Lennox Lewis' top 5 wins wouldn't make you think he was ever champion. And don't be fooled by his wins over fat versions of previously great fighters, like Tyson, Tucker and Tua.

 

Calzaghe's top 5 wins are:

Kessler
Eubank
Reid
Hopkins
Bika

That's actually pretty damn good. It's when you go past n.6 (Lacy) and on to 7,8,9 that it gets really ridiculous.

Floyd also has a really good top 5:

DeLaHoya
Corrales
Castillo
Marquez
Hatton or Mosley

So why are you guys picking them? Lennox's resume is ridiculous for a champion.

 

oh look, cum guzzling popkins has tried to engineer another calzaghe bashing thread for the hundredth time





silencer got it spot on when he described you as a "PISSY LITTLE POSTER" :rofl





Let it go fragile one, no matter how much you whinge and cry on here :crybaby, nothing is gonna change the fact that joe calzaghe went to america and beat your hero bernard hopkins in his 1st fight at light heavyweight, with 3 american judges and with bernards brother joe cortez refereeing the fight






:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke:smoke

 

Floyd & Hopkins are masters of defense. Pac is not, ffs!

Pac vs Diaz (coz you put Calzaghe vs Lacy :yep)


btw, Calzaghe has the worst top 5 wins imo.

 

lets take a closer loor at hopkins 6 best victories. take away the smoke and the mirrors and lets see if anyone notices a familiar pattern


trinidad
prime weight = welterweight (147)
fought hopkins at middleweight (159)
trinidads record at middleweight or above from hopkins onwards = 2 wins / 3 defeats

winky wright
prime weight - light middleweight (154)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 57 fights, the hopkins fight was the only fight that wright had weighed over 160 lbs (a full 10lbs difference)

de la hoya
prime weight - welterweight (140lbs)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160lbs)
de la hoya only fought twice in his career at middleweight out of 45 fights -1 win / 1 loss - the win was a very debatable decision over eurobum felix sturm

pavlik
prime weight - middleweight (160 lbs)
fought hopkins at - 170 lbs
in 34 fights pavlik had only fought 2 minnions at the beginning of his career at 169. all pavliks fights since hopkins have been at the 160 limit.

tarver
prime weight 175
great 2 weight jump from hopkins and his best win despite tarver being a b-level fighter and going 3 wins / 3 losses from hopkins onwards.

johnson
prime weight -super mid / light heavy (162 to 175)
fought hopkins at - middleweight (160)
johnsons record at 160 + from hopkins onwards - 19 wins / 14 defeats / 2 draws
the defeats have come against people of the level of ottke, woods, shieka, gonzales, harmon, branco, vanderpool, Kiwanuka, sosa :rofl

 

you need to put down the laptop and never pick it up again you dumb *****

barkley had previously been smashed to bits by benn in one round and then got his ass kicked by a shot 37 year old roberto duran fighting at middleweight prior to even fighting toney :rofl

why do you toney ballsuckers try and make a big deal of toneys win over eurobum jirov. i want one of you on here to have the balls to tell me what jirovs 5 best victories are just so i can understand how good this fella was

peak toney was drawing with sanderline williams

winning life and death split decisions against
sosa
johnson
and robbing the phenominal dave tiberi :rofl

not to mention is courageous defeats against the likes of thadzi and midget griffin twice :happy

oh yeah and lets not forget that tap out queen toney embarrassed the whole of boxing quiting like a ***** in the ufc and WAS TWICE FOUND GUILTY OF TAKING BANNED ANABOLIC STEROIDS - WHAT A ****ING DISGRACE . . . . . . A BLATANT ****ING CHEAT :-(

 

at the poll results ....


crushing
LANDSLIDE


:rofl

Joe is forever defined as a good boxer with an impeccably gaudy record (in a generally weak era within a crappy division) .. and not even close to an ATG.

 

Joe Calzaghe

 

In order from best to worst:

Pacquiao: (Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Cotto, Hatton)
--Hard to pick only 5...lots to choose from.

Mayweather: (Corrales Hatton Mosley, G. Hernandez, DLH)
--First 4 real solid, last 1 one of many similar.

Calzaghe: (Hopkins, Kessler, Eubank, Lacy, Mitchell)
--First 4 solid/significant, last 1 meh...

Jones: (Hopkins, Toney, Griffin, Ruiz, Woods)*
--First 4 good/significant, last one ok. *for PED's

Lewis: (Morrison, Holyfield, Klitskcho, Tua, Rahman)
--First 4 are solid, last 1 meh...

Barrera: (MoralesX2, Hamed, Kelley, Juarez)
--First 3 real solid, last 2 interchangeable with a few other mediocre wins.

Morales: (Barrerra, Pacquiao, Zaragoza, Jones, Hernandez)
--First 3 solid, last 2 meh...

Toney: (Jirov, Nunn, Barkley, Mcallum, Holyfield)*
--First 4 very good, last one just a name. *for PED's

Hopkins: (Trinidad, Dlh, Pavlik, Wright, Johnson)
--First 4 solid, but smaller and/or past prime. Last 1 ok, but not a name at that point.

Holyfield: (Qawi, Tyson, Bowe, Foreman, Holmes?)
--All past-prime and/or not very good.




Holyfield in a runaway, not even close. And I still think he's very good, just caught everybody at the wrong time.

 

Toney is one of the most overrated boxers of his era, if not the most overrated.

Guy was one of the best fighting out of the pocket, but he's been outboxed on quite a few occassions, and not always by great fighters. That just doesn't happen to elite boxers regularly.

Can you imagine true greats like Mayweather, Jones, Pac, Calzaghe, Hopkins in their primes not having the boxing ability to deal with fighters of the level of Griffin, Thaszi and Tiberi?

And the two best fighters Toney fought, Nunn and Jones, were schooling him for the majority of their fights. He was not as great a boxer as he is made out to be.

As far as resumes, his is not that great either, even compared to Calzaghe's.

Nunn (KO, losing heavily on the cards)
McCallum (UD)
Barkley (KO, had been sparked in one couple years earlier by Benn)
Jirov (UD)
Holyfield (KO, coming off 3 losses from previous 6 fights, had just lost to Byrd and was outboxed by Larry Donald in his next fight)

Nothing to gloat about, or to put Joe's resume down with, that's for sure.