Andre Dirrell: Too little too late?

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Too little? I've already seen waaaaaaaaaaaay too much of this guy.
    Strangest thing is this guy still seems to have fans, while he made clear he doesn't give a f#ck about them as long as he gets "paid like a motherf#%ker".
     
  2. MJK

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    Exactly what I thought. After the fight, I even said that Dirrell now have learn from his mistake and was a little too green, but will be a hell of a fighter. You know what happened next. It's pretty sad.
     
  3. GrandSlam

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    Andre Dirrell no way deserved the nod against Froch...Ok, their styles really didn't fit at all, but you can't have 1 person who chooses to pitty pat and run around get the decision, when they had to foul EVERY SINGLE TIME they were engaged. Every time Froch had him on the ropes and backed into a corner (which he did for the majority of the fight from about round 5 onwards), Direll ducked low, held on or turned his back. He didn't legally neutralise Froch's style or gameplan, and if he'd fought legally from those positions, he would have been panelled, and left looking like he did when he 'beat' Abraham.

    Yes, he has great potential, and awesome boxing ability, but he's a **** end, and for everything he's done to disgrace the sport since the Abraham DQ, he can **** off, and I never wanna see him again.

    For everyone saying what he'd do to Froch if they fought again...in number of fights, Froch wasn't THAT much more experienced than Dirrell, only 6 fights more? He has also improved, and a return match, I'd still fancy him to win by KO.
     
  4. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Froch came to fight. Dirrell came to spoil.

    Going back to the Pascal fight, Froch has always been in entertaining bouts. The Pascal fight was great, the Taylor bout was epic, he went to war with Kessler and schooled Abraham. The only blip was his fight against Dirrell, who, on the other hand, got himself blacklisted from HBO in a previous fight because he was so boring and then said he didn't care, he was atrocious against Froch and ran against Abraham.

    That's not even touching on his cowardice towards the Ward fight.

    If you seriously think Froch deserves blame, you're an idiot. He's been a warrior since getting to world stage. The only thing Dirrell has proven, is that he has no fighting heart.
     
  5. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    Here. Re-posted and lightened it up for you - wouldn't want you to be uncomfortable and miss a word. Face the truth .. you're not alone or unique on ESB .. it is the most discernible aspect in more than half of the posters .. you're just one of so many. You've got other things on your mind rather than boxing or fairly assessing a 26 year old's performance in his 19th and 20th pro fights on a world stage against two champs and what his potential represents. There goes the neighborhood huh?

    LMAOAY

    Lock those windows.


    Truth is what it is, idiot.
     
  6. Master Lewis

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    AD goes for the knockout.....


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  7. GrandSlam

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    Also, for those saying Dirrell won the championship rounds, he even gave Froch the 12th in his post fight interview, so they weren't as clear cut as everyone was making out...and he also claimed there was no warning for holding, which was stupid as he was constantly warned before the point was docked. Froch also received warnings but knew when to stop to avoid a point deduction. All said and done, that was a horrendously close fight, with the right outcome in the end. Showtime commentary was a little biased I think, as it's clear when the tourny was set up, that they wanted an American winner, hence why they've been building Ward up so heavily.

    What does Dirrell need to do to redeem himself? Fight Froch without running, fight Abraham without pretending to be KO'd illegally, and actually fight his bum chum Ward at all, without pretending to be 'neurologically damaged'. That would be a start anyway...
     
  8. Talivar

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    No matter what you think of the Froch fight how can anyone defend Dirrells antics in regard to Ward and his fake illness?. If you say how do i know he is faking then well thats simple, if it was real he would have retired for life and not be back sparring. Neurological Damage and Pugilists Dementia is not something you can just get over.
     
  9. qcolts

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    Dirrell's perfomance was much better than Froch's. He put on a counter punching clinic. The fight resembled a typical floyd mayweather perfromance where the pressure fighter keeps coming forward and missing wildly, while the counter puncher waits for the opportunity and strikes cleanly. It really a pretty easy fight to score for anyone who isn't a Froch nuthugger.
     
  10. BoxingFanNo1

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    If he faded into obscurity never to be spoken of again it wouldn't effect me one iota.

    Less guys who employ those tactics the better for our sport.
     
  11. Jack

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    Please tell me one fight where Floyd ran, cried, held to the point of a point deduction and did everything else to spoil the fight? Just one.

    That's my issue with people who think Dirrell won. They solely focus on the positives of his performance but whilst those positives won him the fight in their eyes, in the judges and every journalist in the arena, his negatives cost him the fight.

    Two judges said he lost, every journalist in the arena said he lost, the fans knew he lost, his own team said it was close and he needed to step it up, Dirrell acknowledged he should have done more, he changed his style for the Abraham fight - What more do people need? hose who cry "robbery" are deluded.
     
  12. RedDragonBoxing

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    Before the Froch fight i looked up his past fights and was very impressed and thought he was a dark horse in the super six whilst i wasnt impressive with ward and to be very honest im still not.

    now the froch fight comes and hes buckling under the pressure and even though he fought to a close decision he cut the excitement from the froch fight which to be honest Froch has had 3 FOTY candidates with Pascal, Taylor and Kessler.

    I thought he might redeem himself with Abraham as he could bob and weave and his chin and power and speed still seemed good then all of a sudden BOOM! the ref calls it a slip even though personally it was a knockdown in my eyes and then he buckles again.

    The dudes got all the physical attributes but has no heart! he knew he could beat ward if he stuck at it but he was too afraid as ward is an awkward ******* and he knows it from first hand experience and seeming as the fight would be in oakland hed have no chance.

    He gets in a war without Falling, Dropping, Clinching, Complaining to the ref, Faking a Ko, Crying, Moaning, Bitching and fights like a warrior / the slick boxer that he has the potentiol to be then he has redeemed himself but if my uncle cant grow his eye back then dirrell sure as hell cant grow his heart back.
     
  13. Steenalized

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sglt7SST4No[/ame]
    Are you kidding me? His legs clearly come out from under him, whether he was acting after that or not idk/idc, but he clearly slipped on that ring.
     
  14. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How can ANYONE after watching this video say this was not a robbery ??
     
  15. qcolts

    qcolts Member Full Member

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    I'm sorry but you can't win a fight based on ineffective aggression, which is basically what you are arguing. Dirrell landed the cleaner more effective blows throughout the fight. Whether it is a style you or I like is irrelevant. Dirrelll did more in the fight to win. You say, tell you the last time somebody won the belt by holding and running, I say tell me the last time somebody won a fight by stalking and landing nothing of relevance while looking like an amateur missing so wildly.