Prime vs Prime Calzaghe vs Benn

I would certainly say Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn overcame greater adversity than Calzaghe. My God if Joe was hit by McClellan's sledgehammer rather than Roy's forearm.... and my God if Joe hit Roy with a punch like Eubank's mammoth uppercut on MW....

 

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good stuff

 

yeah, eubank and benn are 2 very good examples who proved themselves in adversity.

eubank especially, benn1, the 2 thompson fights, and where he found that uppercut from in the 11th round of watson2 i will never know - eubank was beaten but he got up from the canvas and tragically knocked watson down with one of the best uppercuts i've ever seen.

benn not so much in my eyes, with regards to watson, eubank 1, and the collins fights (though he was way past his best then). however, benn was always dangerous when he had got wobbled, he fought in adversity well in the barkley fight when he got tagged and the mccllellan fight is perhaps one of thee great examples of fighting in adversity - phenominal performance, one of the greatest ever by a british fighter.

 

so fighters have to be ATG's for the victory to mean anything ? that's just stupid.

 

calzaghe was bashed from pillar to post against brewer ? no he wasn't. it was a tough fight sure, but pillar to post ? are we even talking about the same calzaghe here ? doesn't look like it.

 

:good:good

Benn walks through Joke Alzaghe.

 

Take up tennis or some ****

 

Benn KO

 

how do you think prime benn v prime hopkins goes at middleweight soldier?

 

I thought Benn looked ace at times post-McClellan. I mean ACE.

He struggled with the southpaw stance and awkward style of Nardiello for a few rounds but once he found his timing and range landed a six-punch combination to knock Nardiello out the ring almost where all six punches (all head punches and all power shots!) of the combo landed clean! I thought his body work in his next fight at Wembley Stadium was awesome (pin-point accuracy, terrific transferring of weight).

He struggled to get past the rangey left jab of Malinga (as he had in their previous fight), but flattened him with the most perfectly-timed counter overhand right that was far more technique than power - it was too late even at R5 because his eyes had already puffed over and he was struggling to see the long jab.

Then in the Collins fights he was bobbing-and-weaving beautifully, countering perfectly with perfect power shots (!), and just about getting the better of that invincible-looking marauding warrior version of Collins both times before fights called off.

It was his head and heart not there - I have no doubt physically Benn could've gone on for years more and done terrific.

 

Benn maybe had a weakness against backfoot jab merchants - he only really ever fought one: Sugar Boy Malinga, and lost quite clearly twice.

On the backfoot I don't think Calzaghe was effective throwing his spearing right jab - infact he just didn't do it... Eubank was great at jabbing on the front foot, also why I don't think Jones Jr could just jab Benn like he did with Pazienza - I'm not talking about in the middle of the ring, or off the front foot, I'm talking about when someone is pressing you from the periphery of the killzone, which is where Benn would want to manoeuvre, navigate his opponent.

Malinga had something most or all '68 Benn opponents did not have - a consistent jab to measure, frustrate and stabilize Benn's bobbing style.

 

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(Sanderline Williams also rocked Benn with a short left hook)

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benn by stoppage , i am biased and i dont care

 

Benn had admirable qualities as a fighter but he is overrated imo. Exciting is sometimes confused with greatness.

He actually improved in the latter half of his career. For all his perceived toughness he was often found lacking when the going got tough and he couldnt blast away an opponent.