David Tua vs Rocky Marciano

Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Louis, Archie Moore, Rex Layne. More importantly when did you ever see him badly hurt? We don't know what it takes to knock out rocky marciano. Also, what kind of never say die human windmill with two powerful mitts has Tua ever fought? Tua to me has quite a few problems with average chinny fighters on the scorecards. With rockys superior skills, body attack and leverage on the inside, combined with tua's sweet gut..I wouldn't rule out a decision win for Marciano on the cards.

Joe Louis 6'2 214lb 37 years old. Rated # 2 in the world. There have been some great heavyweight champions in the past who could still fight good past there prime in their late 30's. I don't see why Louis shouldn't be on that list.

Tua was not faster than Marciano. I don't agree with that. I also don't think the gap in size and strength is as wide as you make it out to be. It would be even closer if we take Tua off the anabolic steroids.

I think Tua should be on trial here. Not Rocky Marciano. Rocky fought and beat hall of fame heavyweights while they were either still champions or # 1 rated contenders. Who has Tua ever beat who compares to a Jersey Joe Walcott or Archie Moore? Hasim Rahman? Oleg Maskaev? John Ruiz? His 3 best wins. Good wins, but not great wins. Tua is unproven vs a fighter of Marciano's style as well.

 

HeGrant,

Where you and I disagree with Marciano is styles. I see Rocky as matching up better against the big sluggers, while struggling with the fast technical boxers. You see visa verca. I just think rocky's relentless, stamina, workate, and good beard would allow him to break down many of those slower big sluggers in the later rounds when they were gassed(not the very elite foreman tyson liston). I see the fast moving boxers as being able to take advantage more of Marcianos shortcomings in technique and reach..and use there reach and skills to outbox him.

The blg slugger type styles Marciano fought (Rex Layne, Joe Louis, Johnny Skhor, Carmine Vingo) he destroyed. The boxer/defensive specialists Lastarza, Lowry, Charles, Walcott...all gave him quite a heap of trouble.

 

I think Marciano was faster and busier and actually had better defense. Hence I think he outworks Tua and wins a decision if he doesn't break him down and stop him. Is this a Tua on steroids or natural? I remember when Tua was a 200-pound amateur.

 

I didn't know Tua was on steroids? That's news to me.

 

Chris Byrd's body punches bothered him. Can't imagine how he'd feel when Rocky gives him a few love taps to the body. Oh wait, Tua's going to knock him out within the first 30 seconds... nevermind.

 

That's very possible. When Tua gets right down to buisness, he's a scary ass man. And think about this; Both times Rocky was floored, it happened early in the fight when he was adapting. It normally took The Rock a few rounds to turn up the pressure. He was vulnerable early. If he's getting dropped at all, it's early in the fight. And Tua was great at that.

 

Tua dosnt qualify here. Its about levels. Tua was about arturo godoy's level. Tough fight for most champs but just not world champion material.

 

Where have you been Pete? Can't believe you'd sit this long without responding to some of the stuff in this thread.

I don't think Tua survives a Marciano body assault, but I don't think the Rock makes it through this fight unscathed. Tua would hit him and hurt him, but he's not stopping the Rock. I'd bet on Marciano tasting the canvas first but he'd return the favour in the middle rounds and stop Tua if it goes that long.

Tua's not KOing Marciano early. The Rock was just too tough and his speed is underrated considering some in other threads are adamant that he was a plodder and nothing more. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.

 

Marciano by stoppage...

And so hegrant doesn't take offense, Langford might stop Tua too.

 

No offense taken ... I get a kick out of how fixated you are on me ...

 

The question is not if Rocky has the power to hurt Tua ... the question is if he defeats him ... you make a comparison to Byrd showing how childish your thought process is ... Byrd boxed him and so avoided getting hit in return ... how would Rocky do that ? The only shot Marciano would have is to out slug him and that is a fantasy Princess ..

 

Break clean when I tell you to break!

 

Very bad matchup for Tia, rock would make him miss and counter. First or second round ko for rocky. Tua would be wondering for weeks when everything stops spinnig and take up knitting

 

Marciano vs. Young would be a better match-up

 

Now that would be a real bad matchup for rocky, I think he'd be very frustrated, tired from missing all night, and pretty swollen from being countered, and probably knocked down once or twice, no way rock wins this one