murray gallagher split ?

The vast majority of trainers teach a similar style. If you look at football, which despite being a different sport is an appropriate comparison, when Mourinho went from Porto to Chelsea, he did a lot of very similar things but adjusted accordingly to his players. When he went to Inter, he did the same and he's currently doing the same basics at Real Madrid. There are differences, of course, because he has 11 different players but there's a fundamental similarity in all his teams. It's only this weekend that he spoiled an amazing home record, going all the way back to Porto, which proves the similar mentality he had when playing at home.

The majority of boxing trainers are the same. The best boxing trainer in the world right now, Freddie Roach, has the same principles when he teaches his different stable. Whilst Khan is is a very different fighter to Pacquiao, they still both use lots of angles, combinations and punch variety, and you see the same with all his camp. Roach trains them not just to their strengths but his strengths as well.

That's all I think Gallagher does. Yeah, some of his fighters fight in a similar way but so what? He has an amazing group of fighters for a reason. He has a long winning record for a reason. He's won everything except a world title for a reason. You can fault him for training fighters similarly, although you'd be wrong to, but you certainly can't fault the success he's had.

There's no difference to fighters and trainers, or even going back to football managers. They will always do what they know best and that's the right way to be. When Owen Coyle came to my team, Bolton, he had a group of players who had been defensive minded and playing ugly football for years and he turned us into an entertaining side because that's all he knows. He doesn't know how to play defensive, ugly football despite that being the way our team knew. He moulded the players just like Gallagher moulds his fighters and, honestly, in both cases, it works.

 

Not every fight can end as it should. Given El Ouzghari's awkward style and toughness, combined with Murray's lack of genuine power and defensive weaknesses, it's not hard to see why it was such a tricky fight. Honestly, I don't think Brandon Rios or Michael Katsidis would have an easy night with him either. I think they'd win more impressively, sure, but I could see them both getting tagged plenty of times. It just made for an awkward styles match up.

Had Froch/Dirrell taken place before the Pascal fight, nobody would think Froch was going to be world class.

 

I can give you a million examples of ATG's been streched before winning world titles. It means nothing.

 

While I agree Tony, there is a certain 'elite' group of trainers who know the fundamentals, know about conditioning properly, know how to talk to a fighter, have decent contacts, have that big fight experience- they are the top end trainers and while seperating them from each other in terms of capability might be difficult, seperating them from some of the shite that call themselves boxing trainers isn't at all :good

At that level (your level) I think its about suitability rather then capability because there is no question guys likie Arnie, Adam Booth, Kevin Maree, Billy Nelson, Joe Gallagher, Howard Rainey and a good few others know their stuff.

 

Is it fair to say that a trainer can't win you a fight..... but he can easily lose you one?

 

Great post- anyone ever notice that Kell Brook, Naseem Hamed, Johnny Nelson, Ryan Rhodes and Herol Graham all box similar?

 

:deal

 

And that right there is Beeston circa 2007 - loving boxing ..... inspiring others with quotes.

Before he hated boxing

 

That contract says 'U bet your arse boyo!'.

 

You must have me confused with someone else

 

Who, confused you for me?

 

I'm lost :-/

 

Incorrect. It actually says "Believe you me". :nono

 

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