Rank Winky, Oscar, Tito, and Mosley in order of ATG....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beezy, Apr 6, 2011.


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  1. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    Oscar
    Mosley
    Tito
    Winky

    Based on their resumes EXCEPT for their fights with each other. If you base it on their victories over each other the list looks like this:

    Winky
    Tito
    Mosley
    Oscar

    Which doesn't look right.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Apr 7, 2011
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  2. Juiceboxbiotch

    Juiceboxbiotch Guest

    Dude. 2 things:

    1. I would love to see you take that liver shot without crying and soiling your shorts.

    2. Vargas tested positive for a DIURHETIC, not an anabolic steroid after the DLH fight. Diurhetics are used to facilitate losing weight, not building muscle or enhancing performance.
     
    Juiceboxbiotch, Apr 7, 2011
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  3. Beezy

    Beezy 2 Eazzy Full Member

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    I think people tend to forget that ATG lists aren't solely based on talent or H2h.. otherwise RJJ would be number 1 alltime on many's lists.... (even though I know a lot of people on this forum who would still put him number 1 anyway:rofl)... hence, IMO Oscar > Winky
     
    Beezy, Apr 7, 2011
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  4. Requiem4Hvywht

    Requiem4Hvywht Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Neither Winky, Shane, Oscar or Tito are considered ATG's by boxing historians.

    This goes back to a thread I put up earlier. None of you and I mean none of you has a clue what the phrase "All Time Great" even means.

    But lets say you are just ranking them. Then what is the "UNIVERSAL" standard you are judging them by? Most of you couldn't even fill a notebook page of paper with your so-called criteria.

    If you do NOT agree upon one then all of you guy's ATG list comparisons are ****ING MEANINGLESS!
     
    Requiem4Hvywht, Apr 7, 2011
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  5. box101

    box101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    tito
    oscar
    shane
    winky
     
    box101, Apr 7, 2011
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  6. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    1. Mosley
    2. De La Hoya
    3. Wright
    4. Tito
     
    Napoleon, Apr 7, 2011
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  7. Napoleon

    Napoleon Smokin' Full Member

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    Good thing that Tito was such a clean boxer.:lol:
     
    Napoleon, Apr 7, 2011
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  8. Super_Fly_Sam

    Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer Full Member

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    agree

    although i probly would need to see more of Winky to rank him correctly
     
    Super_Fly_Sam, Apr 7, 2011
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  9. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you're assuming too much.. you'll never know how will tito react to a liver shot and he lasted 12 rds against hopkins and didnt give up like dlh did

    :hat
     
    puertorricane, Apr 8, 2011
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  10. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    give us your ATG list almighty one.. what credentials do you have

    :hat
     
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  11. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    Doesn't matter if you haven't ever seen one of these guys fight. The footage is out there man.
     
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  12. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    tito wanted to fight quartey and even agree to a fight but quartey got out of the fight and didnt want to fight him and went on to fight dlh because he got paid more... when tito was champion it was hard for him to get fights... everybody avoided him.. he wanted chavez but chavez said he was too big.. in the other hand it was easy for DLH because he was the money maker and guys wanted him cause of the big payday..

    look at chavez didnt want to fight tito cause he was too big but fought dlh twice

    :hat

    :hat
     
    puertorricane, Apr 8, 2011
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  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Oscar
    Winky
    Mosley
    Tito
     
    Imperial1, Apr 8, 2011
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  14. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :bbb Eat that you Tito hating *****
     
    Finesse74, Apr 8, 2011
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  15. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: How was it hard for Tito to get fights, he got Carr, Camacho and Campas, solid guys but not on Tito's level in the space of a few years. It took him way longer than it took Oscar to get Whitaker in the ring and he never even stepped in with Quartey. Tito was a welterweight title holder when Oscar was a lightweight title holder. Shows you just how much time Tito had to get the fights with these guys and he never got round to it despite being a big name in his own right (he would never have made 1.5m buys with Oscar if he wasn't a big name). Until Tito, Oscar had never come near to 1.5m, he got 1m buys before Tito.

    How on earth am I a Tito hating *****, I just recognise what his welterweight title reign was. One filled with solid wins but one that lost steam for a period until Oscar was challenging him for 147 supremacy that required Tito to start stepping up the competition again.

    I've already stated that I enjoy watching Tito, and have already defended that he should be considered better than Winky.
     
    LancsTerrible, Apr 8, 2011
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