Largest Weight Gaints After Weigh Ins?

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  1. brownpimp88

    brownpimp88 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    mosley at lightweight
     
  2. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    good call
    i loved the fans reactions when people said HE IS GOING TO WELTER!!!!
    when actually he has been a welter for all his championship fights
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    In the days of the old rules Jeff Fenech used to put on copious amounts for the provisions.
     
  4. Pat_Lowe

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    He'd tuck into his mums pasta straight after the weigh-in
     
  5. Dumi

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    Why? You have any idea how much weight is lost by some of these fighters? Most of it is things like glycogen depletion and serious dehydration. An IV and manipulating your diet properly would bring lots of that weight back quick.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    And sometimes more.
     
  7. Vantage_West

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    well you got to say he looked way too big to be a bantamwieght and be so mucsled not even skinny
     
  8. enquirer

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    James toney once said he put on twenty pounds because the doctor wrongly administered him four iv bags instead of the normal two.

    I will make one point though,some guys claim to be 15 pounds bigger after the weigh in but when they get in the ring they dont really look much bigger than their opponents. Examples are toney v williams (williams looked much bigger than toney.) and hatton v anybody. hatton claims to be 155 or so in the ring yet he has been dwarfed by every fighter at world level at 140 (even castillo.) and at 147 he looked smaller than the small welter floyd. Ricky may claim to have been 5 pounds or so heavier than floyd but in the ring floyd looked bigger.
    My theory is that a lot of this excessive weight gain is in fact not real lean weight but excessive water weight gained by consuming copious amounts of water and food. I surmise that many boxers gain soo much weight (fat and water.) between fights that when its time to make weight they cut corners and just try to starve and dehydrate for a few days (rather than cutting slowly through training or not becoming a fat pig between fights.) in a 'crash dieting way' and then rebound back in weight after the weigh in gorge....No way is hatton a welter, (even though he claims to be 155 in the ring.) Hatton is just a fatty who retains water easily,as are many boxers who mess up their metabolisms by getting too fat...
    Look at floyd,great metabolism,doesnt get overweight,and gets in the ring two or three pounds max over his weigh in weight,thats the the old school way and the safest as well....
    There should be a rule that a boxer cannot enter the ring at a weight which makes him exceed the division limit.
    As a side note,guzman at 148 was about 15 pounds bigger than soto yet still couldnt break an egg,What thats about?
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    He did it at every weight he fought too.
     
  10. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    I've read that Gerald McClellan would cut well over 20 pounds to make 160.
     
  11. SuzieQ49

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    are you kidding me? its called "weight control". You are succesfully managing to lose all your fat, then cut out your water weight, and then you havd a long 24 to rehydrate so that by fight night you can hold a sizeable advantage over the other guy who was too dumb or lazy to cut weight. its called taking advantage of your body structure and working hard. I am a college wrestler, i wrestle at 141lb my natural weight is 165-170lb, and unlike boxers i have to wrestle the day I weigh in. usually that night I gain about 10-15lb back.


    Weight Control is a part of the sport
     
  12. Sonny's jab

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    They should make fighters weigh inside the limit in the ring just before the fight begins.
    If they are over they should be fined heavily and/or DQ'd.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    I wrestle in College. Last year when I made 133lb at 10 am that morning for a tournament, by 10 pm I was weighing 148lb. When you cut that much weight, the fluids come back into you like its their job and all your water weight that you lost immediately comes back.



    Our varsity 133lber this year 3 days after making 133lb, weighed 157lb.
     
  14. Chaney

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    I read a theory that McClellan's weight cutting was in part responsible for the catastrophic brain damage he suffered in his fight against Benn.

    Apparantly, dehydration can thin the protective membrane that cushions the brain, leaving a boxer more prone to brain injuries.
     
  15. I think its a total joke. You should be weighed just before you walk out to the ring. If you don't make weight, you lose. Then you get people saying "But its dangerous because they are dehydrated" etc. Well i'm sorry, if you can't comfortably make weight you are in the wrong weight class. If you walk around too fat, or you haven't got the chin or power for a higher weight class, then that is your problem. I guarantee a lot of people we see as brilliant would be brought down a peg or two under these rules. It makes no sense anyway, example Hatton-Mayweather, they probably bout weighed about 160 on fight night. So why not just have the fight at Super-middle? If they were weighed 5 minutes before the fight at the super middle weight, at least it could be billed as a super middle fight instead of a welterweight fight, because there sure as hell wasn't someone weighing 147 in that fight, hell Joe Cortez was probably closer to the 147 mark than Floyd or Ricky.