making weight

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by dfh85, Mar 27, 2011.


  1. tim851

    tim851 Member Full Member

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    So I guess the difference between Mike Tyson (5'11", 220 lbs) and Felix Trinidad (5'11", 147-160 lbs) was just eating then...?

    This is a boxing forum. In boxing terms, "natural weight" pretty much means the lowest you can get to without compromising athleticism. Yes, you can bulk up on muscles or fat, but that won't put you in a good position against opponents who reached that weight more "naturally".

    Roy Jones was 200 lbs. unofficially the night of his fight against John Ruiz. He wasn't considered a natural heavyweight though.

    Thommy Hearns was 6'1" (at least) and boxed at 130 lbs. in the amateurs, 147 lbs. most of his professional life. He did fill out nicely as he went up in weight, but was never again as devastating as he was at Welterweight, because it wasn't his "natural weight".

    I do agree that it's not a good idea to try to cut a lot of weight in a short time if you don't have nutrition experts supervising you.
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Obviously. What do you think makes the difference in weight?

    A "natural weight" would be what your body wants to maintain, i.e. the word natural. Seeing as you can weigh as little or as much as you want while being healthy shows there is really no natural weight. What you're referring to is an ideal weight for athletic performance, in this case boxing. You may have better performance at a specific weight but that does not relate to natural bodyweight.

    Again, the term natural bodyweight has nothing to do with boxing.

    It's not a good idea whether you have a nutritional expert or not.
     
  3. smithj1234jj

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    Not saying it was clever thing to do and i will freely admit it was stupid, i entered the natioanls 3 months prior at a weight i was fighting at comfertably the over the 3 months i grew and coudlnt make the weight easily anymore and was actaully fighting club shows at 69 kilo instead of 64...howeveri didnt enter the 69kg at the natioanls 3 months prior. the reason for doing the 500ml was to keep the water that i had lost by training in the sweat suit off....no need to try and put me down i actually went on to win the title and moved up to 69 stragiht after.
     
  4. UpAndComin4

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    ^Exactly.

    And I'm not even going to bother commenting on an "experiment" done in prison to help determine our physical body appearance.
     
  5. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    If you WON the title then you did what needed doing to get the job done and none of us have matched that, as long as you know what you did was dumb as **** and potentially life threatening in something that should not be at all, congratulations my man.
     
  6. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.
     
  7. smithj1234jj

    smithj1234jj Guest

    yep i know it was daft but i came out of with alot of learning!
     
  8. Ylem

    Ylem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nvm.....i dont really care.
     
  9. tim851

    tim851 Member Full Member

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    In cases like Tyson: Bone structure. "Stocky build". The guy had a 20" neck. Even in childhood photos you can see his huge neck.

    Diego Corrales was the same height as Tyson and fought at 130 lbs. There's no way Tyson can weigh in at 130 lbs. and fight.

    It has ALL to do with boxing. There is no scientific term like "natural weight". Because you're right, there is a wide range of weights a person can have while being (mostly) healthy.
    But it's a boxing term. Like "southpaw". Got nothing to do with Manny Pacquiao only punching south. Natural weight is a commonly used term in boxing. People say things like "Boxer A isn't a natural Middleweight." You can argue all you want, but a 5'5" fat guy weighing 220 lbs. isn't a natural heavyweight.

    It is the established practice in boxing and has been for decades. Except for the heavyweight division, where people eat UP.
     
  10. Scottishbox10

    Scottishbox10 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rossboxing
    The Pain of Making Weight
    http://www.rossboxing.com/thegym/thegym2.htm
    I can do not far off a stone in 1 week .Sweat and cut does it for me .I eat good in the morning then train hard during the day and don't eat at night .That usually cuts me about 2 pounds a day if I weigh myself in the morning .I used to get up and have a good breakfast and coffee.Then go out and do a hard 5 miles run and no more food till the morning .2 pounds a day roughly if I kept it up .If you do something like that for 1 week you might find you'll have half the battle .After about 5 days I would eat rest and carb up .That would only put about 3 pounds back on me but when I went back into it after the rest day it would fall off the next day about 3 or 4 pound then onto another week .Think I done about 2 stones that time .
     
  11. UpAndComin4

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    Tyson had the genetics to be large sure but even in his movie, he loved to eat as a child. That's where the habits start. Some guys eat like young women and they will resemble their size.