Is Floyd afraid of Pacquiao?

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The most insulting label that could be conferred on a boxer, in this most brutal of sports, is cowardice!

    So we have Floyd Mayweather junior, multi weight champ and unbeaten, being accused by many of being a coward. Running away from fighting Manny. I believe that this both a simplistic and lazy accusation and does not stand up when you look at the history and DNA of this fighter, psychologically and emotionally.

    The drug testing I believe was a something that just developed. Floyd senior started off with it and they saw it as a chance to play some mind games. I think they were shocked as were many by Manny’s initial strong reaction against the testing. I think the more they pushed the more an initial stunt started to spook them more than a little bit. Floyd’s biggest weakness is his arrogance and now it became about who dictates to who.

    The present situation, I think one thing Floyd’s detractors are underplaying is his current state of mind. The distractions in his private life are big. Not the altercation with security guards but the events with his ex. Floyd is a dedicated father and in his way very close and focused on his kids. The altercation (caused by his own stupidity I might add) drew in his kids and has caused a major rift. This I believe is like a dagger in the heart for Floyd who himself had many unresolved issues from his childhood between his parents. He is not in the state of mind for boxing I believe based on those particular set of circumstances.
     
  2. guapo

    guapo Active Member Full Member

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    Yes...end thread.
     
  3. boxsensei

    boxsensei Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fixed
     
  4. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Link please ?
     
  5. causality

    causality Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Saying Floyd is afraid of Pac or is a coward might be a childish way of saying "FLoyd doesn't want to fight Pac". But nobody can deny that FLoyd doesn't want to fight Pac.
     
  6. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course:nut
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  7. MAIN

    MAIN Boxing Junkie banned

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    if "nope" then whats the hold up

    that "take the test" can't be used anymore since manny already said he'd test

    so whats the reason if its a "nope"
     
  8. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Afraid is such a soft term.

    Try mortified, terrified, terrorized.
     
  9. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  11. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Yes, its painfully obvious!
     
  12. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweathers Alleged “Ducking” of Manny Pacquiao : The Truth
    April 23rd, 2011
    By Glen Findlay
    Link: http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/04/flo ... more-63944

    Floyd Mayweather & Manny Pacquiao are polar opposites in just about every aspect of their legendary existences. Mayweather is not an overly-offensive fighter; he does not have an aggressive style, he does not fight toe-to-toe…he does not engage in risk-taking. Defensive minded, protect his vulnerable chin at all costs & out-think opponents & styles in & outside the ring. That is the man’s prerogative & that is the man’s choice. His mindset inside the ring is not to sporadically engage; but to out-manouver his opponents offense with slick reflexes & just as slick mentality….to pick & choose when he attacks, to pick & choose who he fights & to wear his opponents down over 12 rounds into such a mental state of anguish, they begin questioning themselves inside the ring when they should attack him. In its own negative stance; it is genius. Ask yourself…why would this kind of defensive, elusive mindset act any differently outside the ring?

    Assessing both fighters before the “inevitable” talks broke down; I would have come to the conclusion that if negotiations were to disparage…Mayweather would be the culprit putting obstacles in the way. Pacquioa is Mayweathers nemesis;
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    Low & behold; talks inevitably broke down due to Floyd un-willing to co-operate with commission state boxing rules, immediately putting in the obstacle of “random testing” up to the day of the fight. Ask yourself; why put an immediate obstacle in the way in the first place? Why not be willing as a self-proclaimed true warrior to agree with commissioning laws & have tests immediately after the fight? This is a coward’s insistence. Even more cowardly is the trash-talking libelous smear campaign of Pacquiao. Let me just add; I train seven days a week & when I once gave blood…I was weakened for three whole days. It does affect people in different ways. Pacquioa has publicly stated before his loss to Morales he gave blood days before the fight. Re-watch that fight & you will hear HBO commentary state how Pacquiao looks tired after only five or six rounds when we all know Pacquioa has the greatest stamina of any fighter of any generation witnessed. Something was amiss in that fight & if you don’t believe me, watch it again. Remember, boxing is all about “ego’s”…why the hell would Manny Pacquioa accept Floyds demand, in effect giving him round one, weakening his body & succumbing to Mayweathers ego? Would Floyd? No chance. Look through the smokescreen & mirrors & see that it’s another clear “obstacle” by Floyd designed to restrict the signing of contracts; this from a guy that should be the one desperate to defeat the official “P4P King” & for a boxer whos love of money outstrips the game itself; make upwards of $50 million from this fight alone.

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    By ranting on twitter about Pacquiao’s losses; he reminds me of the kid at school who would tell all & sundry how hard he was…then run away at the moment of truth. Only then to re-appear, telling any fool who listens how hard he was. Mayweathers had numerous chance to walk the walk but chooses (as cowards do) to just talk the talk…
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    (probably why he gets away fighting JMM)

    Then we have the convenient “retirement” excuse as & when he feels it is necessary to avoid dangerous “in their prime” opponents. A clever strategy. By using the excuse of retiring, Floyd Mayweather manages to avoid all questions of fighting boxers currently in their prime.


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    He is in total control. Ask yourself; how would Floyd have dealt with a fully-primed power-house technician like Miguel Cotto, a relentless pressure-cooker of Antonio Margarito & now Manny Pacquioa. Not very well; hence these fights have not & never will take place. Hence the reluctance to accept a basic…yes a basic guaranteed $50 million purse to fight Manny revealed by Pacquiao’s advisor, Michael Konz. Mayweathers largest purse before this had been $25 million yet once again he will not agree to fight Manny Pacquiao in the ring. If Pacquiao agreed to a $60 million purse, Mayweather would then demand $70 million. If $70 million was agreed; Mayweather would demand $80 million. If Pacquioa agreed to giving 100% of all profits to Floyd; Mayweather would then balk at the share of PPV or another obstacle would be conjured up like a wandering magician.

    To believe Mayweather is “cleaning up the sport” instead of “ducking fighting Pacquioa” is stupendously immature at best, naive at worst; to believe Mayweather co-incidentally “retires” at moments in time when the most highly offensive & currently dangerous boxers were in their primes like Cotto, Margarito & now Pacquioa is again naieve. To believe the libelous accusation that God-fearing, gentleman, class act, politician & all-round humanitarian Pacquioa is on “PEDS” is not just incredibly naive; it is absolutely incredulous, especially when the accusation perspires from an unscrupulous family of drug-taking, woman-battering, child-threatening low-lifes who also claim Vietnamese soldiers injected illegal narcotics that allowed bullets to bounce off their backs in war. Step forward Uncle Roger. The man is un-hinged at best. It does not matter that Mayweathers fans think he can defeat Pacquiao; Mayweather himself does not believe it. The man is a coward, a fraud…a sham & anyone who now follows this guy or endeavors to finance his PPV fights has a morale duty to look themselves in the mirror & ask why are they contributing to the death of our generational super-fight & alongside that; the potential long-term death of boxing as a prime sport. In what other sport would the best not take on the best for fear of losing like Floyd Mayweather?

    “I am the champion, I have the belts and I should not be the one challenging you. I should not even be the one trying to make this fight happen. But Pacquiao vs. Mayweather is what everyone wants… that’s why I am calling out your names [King and Mayweather]. My promoter Bob Arum will be waiting for your call and will be very happy to hear what you have to say. The sooner, the better…this is the only way for Mayweather to save face. He claims he is the best. He says he is No. 1. There is only one way to prove his greatness and that is to face me. I should be ready by November,” quote “Kumbinasyon” in PhilBoxing.com website.

    There you have it; the most concise & clear “calling out” you’ll ever hear. Let’s get this clear…Manny Pacquioa is recognized in boxing as the P4P King. It should be Mayweather doing the “calling out”, not Pacquioa. Mayweather should be desperate to put Pacquioa in his place, to step up to the plate & claim the “P4P” title, to show he is the greatest in a time where the boxing world publicly acknowledges Pacquiao reigns supreme. Let’s all be honest; people like Mayweather don’t care for the fans deep down; like he’s already stated….the fans don’t pay his bills, the fans don’t put his children through school. This man doesn’t even care to be the greatest he can be. All he’s interested in is “money “& the zero losses that will protect his own “precious ego” until the day he dies. He can then proclaim no-body could beat him in his prime; yet the one boxer alive who could dismantle him is avoided at all costs & by all means necessary.

    Judging by Mayweathers meltdowns; Manny Pacquioa has already defeated Floyd Mayweather outside of the ring. He would destroy him inside it….& the Mayweather family knows this. That is the brutal truth, that is why this fight will never enter the history books & to all those who have fallen for Floyds deceitful fabrications…please for the sake of boxing; quit being so juvenile & quit being so naive. Floyd Mayweather, the boxer….R.I.P.
     
  13. sweetray

    sweetray Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As he already showed in the past, he is afraid of any big challenge.
     
  14. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I can't believe these kind of threads still get any response at all...

    ...anyway, the way PBF fought Mosley should be enough to convince anyone that the man isn't scared in a "I'm gonna get my ass kicked" sense...for the trillionth time, it's his undefeated record that he is worried about...I think he sees Pac as someone that might either give him some trouble, or maybe he thinks he'll be the victim of a bad decision, like RJJ used to claim about Darius Michalczweski...
     
  15. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Again, you are just throwing things against the wall, and seeing what sticks!!!