I just can't see Haye Vlad being any different

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  1. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I just can't see Haye Vlad being any different from Haye Harrison but with Haye playing the part of Harrison.

    i can just see Haye running, maybe not even throwing a punch, Vlad stalking maybe missing......but as soon as they engage Haye will be stopped.
    I really think Haye is all bluster and hype, a great case of self promotion but nothing of actual substance at heavyweight. again similar to the Haye Harrison debacle. Audley did a great job in promoting that fight [who can forget him running with an axe LOL] but the reallity was a complete mismatch.

    Can anyone put forward a good case for anything different happening
     
  2. The Clown

    The Clown Active Member Full Member

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    Haye might bet on a KO loss.
     
  3. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Fans shouldnt get too overconfident. It should not be overlooked that Haye is bringing to this fight a potent mix of power, speed, athleticism, and confidence unlike any opponent wlad has ever beaten, imo. He has the ability to hurt wlad with his punches, and has the speed to land them. Of course, he can (and hopefully will, imo) be stopped too.... but thats what makes this fight so exciting.

    And if Wlad does mop the floor with Haye, as I hope he does, it will say more about Wlad at this point then it does about Haye.

    Just imo.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Mine too, brother K. Mine too. I can see this going many ways though. They could get into it quick and one guy get bombed out early. It could be a clinch on the inside from Wlad/Valuevian outside performance from Haye that turns out really awful to watch.

    It could even follow the same line as Pascal/Dawson. A fast spurt fighter with less than stellar stamina taking the wherewithal away from the taller, superior technician, but still being very vulnerable on both sides. Or Wlad never letting Haye get past the jab to land and getting softened up to a late kayo. Two chinny bangers, I don't see how someone can only see one outcome in this fight, myself. I think anything could happen. That's why I have a massive no homo erection months in advance.
     
  5. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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  6. HAYEDAJOKE

    HAYEDAJOKE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can see haye going down first round from a pissed off wlad.
     
  7. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two things, Haye don't hit anywhere near as good as Sanders, Haye has no punch durability. Wlad is seriously going to hammer Haye.
     
  8. zfc

    zfc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thats three things you muppet and none are relevant.
     
  9. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Two actually, Haye's power is overated against people who fight back, Haye's got no durability. It's a prediction that Wlad will hammer him.
     
  10. Alf_p

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    Haye is certainly a worthy opponent to Wlad. And he has an interesting offensive arsenal. He has more than a punchers chance.

    Stil, given Hayes somewhat poor defense, questionable chin and stamina I´d rate Wlad as the clear favorite.

    Shall be interesting to watch the match.
     
  11. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The trouble with that is Haye doesn't know what round Dr. Steelhammer will adminster the anesthesia...:lol::lol:
     
  12. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's hard to envisage an outcome on this fight.

    I've said before that I think the best way for Haye to win, is to stay outside and keep moving. the reason being that Wlad doesn't throw right hands against moving opponents. He waits until they are static and throws straight power punches but doesn't risk it, if the opponent is moving. If that's the case, all Haye has to worry about is the jab. He would just have to wait for his opponents and leap in, as he can do because of his athleticism, and throw flurries.

    However, it really depends on the mentality of both fighters. Will Haye counter or will he fight like he did against the last chinny puncher he fought, Enzo? Will Wlad be aggressive and stalk Haye, like against Austin, or will he be patient like against Chambers? Will Haye be active or inactive?

    There's a lot of questions attached to the fight, which is what makes it hard to pick a decisive outcome. Another reason it's hard to pick an outcome is because neither fighter can take the others power and if Wlad hits Haye hard, I expect it to be fight over and the same the other way around. You could be an expert at picking fights and because of both their strengths and weaknesses, end up looking clueless. This fight really can change at any second.

    That's why I made a thread yesterday about the mind games. I think that is, in this case, going to be important. I think the more the mind games affect Wlad, the more it plays into Haye's strategy and that will be interesting. I said before that Wlad doesn't throw right hands against moving opponents, because he doesn't want to ever be unbalanced, but there's a good chance he will, if he is desperate to hurt Haye. I think the mind games may affect Wlad's gameplan to Haye's benefit.

    But, yeah, it's a great fight and because both men have many strengths and one glaring weakness each, it's a tough one to pick. Wlad is more technically skilled and composed, whereas Haye has more natural gifts and fights very loose. Tough fight to pick. I only hope that it's a good one, regardless of who wins.

    I think anyone who says they are over 90% confident in their pick is either biased or showing too much 'bravado'.
     
  13. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    haye has a higher KO percentage than both klits thats for sure !
     
  14. Black2023

    Black2023 Guest

    There is huge difference between David Haye and Audley Harrison physically, spiritually and mentally.

    David throughout his career has stepped up and been successful.

    Pro debut against Tony Booth who had 121 professional bouts and was considered a tough journeyman level fighter, a guy you normally took on after 4 or 5 fights. He took him on and straight away took care of business.

    Survived being wobbled and knocked down by L. Mock....past the test of will to win. Every fighter at one point or another will perform sub par, Tyson with Tillis, W. Klit with R. Purrity, Ali with Banks.

    In his 10th fight took on A. Williams former IBF cruiserweight world champion.

    10 fights....10 knockouts.

    11th Fight took on Carl Thompson a top 10 cruiserweight, smashed him around for several rounds but ran out of steam with Thomspon coming on strong to get stopped in the 5th round. This was a heavy lesson for Haye, he had strolled through his first 10 opponents and had just one scare L. Mock...this was all within the first two years as a pro.

    Haye goes onto have 4 more bouts and knocking them out all brutally and takes on the European cruiserweight champion knocking him out in 45 seconds.

    Defends the belt 3 times including a win over future world crusierweight champion Fraogomani..

    In his 5th year as a pro, and his 20th and 21st fights takes on a heavyweight in Bonin and smashes him the first minute and takes on the WBA, WBC champ Mormeck in his own back yard win via knockout.

    Unifys the division by taking on Macarnelli.

    Then moves up and takes out M. Barrett.

    Beats Valuev for the WBA.

    This is where he stagnates......fights Ruiz and Harrison.


    Haye stepped up every time so to compare him to Harrison a fighter who has fail consistently is stupid.

    I belive Wlad will have to much for Haye, but make no mistake....this is Vlad signature fight.
     
  15. Money Shot

    Money Shot Guest



    Not at HW.