If Haye Beats Wlad Were P4P Would You Place Him?

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  1. stocks

    stocks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thought i would start this threat as i was looking at world boxing news website and saw they had Haye at 25 which i thought was a bit harsh!

    So with unified cruiser weight champion and being the unified heavy weight champion were would you rank him?

    Does he deserve the number one spot?
     
    stocks, May 1, 2011
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  2. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lol nah dude, he won't going anywhere near the number one spot. I'm not sure where he'd be, but of curiosity, where's Wladimir ranked in the P4P list?
     
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  3. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Titles are meaningless in P4P comparisons.

    If Haye were to beat Wlad I'd put him were I'd put Wlad right now, and that would be in the 8-10 P4P section.
     
    madballster, May 1, 2011
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  4. stocks

    stocks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here is the first 30 from there list.

    1. Manny Pacquaio (52-3-2) WBO Welterweight champion and WBC light-middleweight champion

    2. Nonito Donaire (26-1) WBC and WBO bantamweight champion
    3. Floyd Mayweather Jr (41-0)
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez (52-5-1) WBA and WBO lightweight champion
    5. Miguel Cotto (36-2-0) WBA "Super" light-middleweight champion
    6. Sergio Martinez (47-2-2)
    7. Wladimir Klitschko (55-3-0) WBO and IBF heavyweight champion
    8. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam (80-3-1) WBC flyweight champion
    9. Chris John (44-0-2) WBA “super” world featherweight champion
    10.Timothy Bradley (26-0) WBO light-welterweight champion
    11.Giovani Segura (27-1-1) WBO and WBA “super” world light-flyweight champion
    12.Vitali Klitschko (42-2-0) WBC heavyweight champion
    13. Bernard Hopkins (51-5-2)
    14. Amir Khan (24-1-0) WBA light-welterweight champion
    15. Andre Ward (23-0) WBA “super” world super-middleweight champion
    16. Carl Froch (27-1-0) WBC super-middleweight champion
    17. Robert Guerrero (29-1-1) Interim WBA and WBO lightweight champion
    18. Jean Pascal (26-1-1) WBC light-heavyweight champion
    19. Zab Judah (41-6-0) IBF light-welterweight champion
    20. Lucian Bute (28-0) IBF super-middleweight champion
    21. Marco Huck (32-1-0) WBO cruiserweight champion
    22. Shane Mosley (46-6-1)
    23. Yuriorkis Gamboa (19-0) IBF and WBA “super” world featherweight champion
    24. David Haye (25-1-0) WBA heavyweight champion
    25. Marcos Maidana (30-2)
    26. Chad Dawson (29-1-0)
    27. Fernando Montiel (44-3-2)
    28. Juan Manuel Lopez (30-1)
    29. Devon Alexander (21-1)
    30. Victor Ortiz (29-2-2) WBC welterweight champion
     
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  5. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    7 by The Ring. I wouldn't put him in the top 20 with a win over Wlad, personally. Wlad has no big stunning win but about 6 years of consistent domination, Which Haye doesn't, and it's been about 4 years since his last impressive victory. Not enough to talk pound for pound.
     
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  6. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously why is there so much emphasis on the p4p list?
     
    floyd_g.o.a.t, May 1, 2011
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  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah I'd probably agree.

    But what a joke that P4P list is above. Sergio Martinez below Donaire and Cotto? Yeah right.
     
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  8. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's a rhetorical question right?
     
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  9. stocks

    stocks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm to thick to know what that means:rofl :think
     
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  10. The Top Dog

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    Ok, I misread the poll. Though it was p4p of all time.

    If he beats Wlad, then current p4p I'd say top 10
     
    The Top Dog, May 1, 2011
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  11. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Top ten, Between 8-10.
     
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  12. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't know where that list has come from.

    The Rings top 10 is as follows, it's never possible to get something so subjective perfect, I don't think Andre Ward should be in it yet 18 months after moving past prospect status but I find theirs' better than anyone elses'.

    1. Manny Pacquaio
    2. Floyd Mayweather
    3. Sergio Martinez
    4. Nonito Donaire
    5. Juan Manuel Marquez
    6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    7. Wladimir Klitschko
    8. Tim Bradley
    9. Giovanni Segura
    10. Andre Ward.
     
    Larryboys, May 1, 2011
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  13. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    There are some that i dont agree with. P4P right now, Maidana and Mosley are better then Dawson ?
     
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  14. BoxingFan2010

    BoxingFan2010 Boxing Addict banned

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    Agree :good P4P List is not acurate listing anyways. Why make such a big deal about it. Just my thoughts.

    Peace
     
    BoxingFan2010, May 1, 2011
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  15. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Between 5 and 10 for me. If he beat Wlad and Vitali back to back then I'd rank him number 2 behind Pacquaio. He's got to get past that sickening jab first, intact, before he can unload. His only chance is to rush Wlad and land a bomb in the first couple of rounds to stand any chance. Against Vitali, he would have to put in a biblical performance, the odds are that stacked against him.
     
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