How many fights at WW did Ricky have ? If Floyd can adjust why did it take 9 rounds to put away such an inexperienced Welter if he is so good at making adjustments. Ricky comes forward there is nothing else to it. Ring IQ I also don't agree. Again I go to round 2 of Mosley. What is pointing to a high ring IQ putting yourself one punch away from being Knocked out ? It was more Floyd's conditioning that helped him survive and Mosley's age that worked against him in mounting another offensive attack. I don't think Floyd's skills translates well at WW. Not his best weight and too far away from his prime without anything convincing vs a real test like Cotto and Clottey.
He's not at his best, but he isn't too far off...his ring IQ, ring generalship, and experience/knowledge as a whole has improved. But this is a guy who is a great H2H against pretty much all at 130lbs, of course he's not going to be at his very best at WW. How is it an unknown? The guy has been fighting at the very top level for years. If you class Mayweather as an unknown at WW, and an unknown in how to deal with certain experiences at WW. Then you can just turn that around and say Pacquiao has very little, or even no experience of dealing with a boxer like Mayweather at WW. Pacquiao at WW has not fought a guy who can make him miss, then punish him with stinging shots...whether it is knock out power or not, Mayweather's shots will hurt. And if you are basing Mayweather not being a threat on that second round with Mosley. What about the 5th(?)6th(?) round against Margarito when Pacquiao was hurt to the body? Boxers get hit, no-one is unhittable...and just because one boxer was able to hurt said boxer, doesn't guarantee that another can. Styles make fights. I believe this bout is a lot more intriguing, and you are a lot more intrigued than you let on. It's a great styles clash, BOTH going in to the unknown somewhat. Taking in to consideration both boxers strengths and weaknesses, and not just looking at one guys strengths, and the other guys weaknesses (like you're doing)...I don't see how you can type with a straight face that you don't consider Mayweather a threat to Pacquiao at 147lbs. And I've said the same to people who claim Pacquiao isn't a threat to Mayweather at 147lbs.
the only way to beat pacman .. is to fight as a "spoiler" - inside the whole time, pressing give pacqiuo no room to move...throwing upppercuts hooks and rips, occasionaly stepping back and throwing straight 1-2.. but staying tight on the inside-countering... "spoiling" can beat pacquio it would take a smart/conditioned fighter to pull it off... this method could see pacqiou hit the canvas IMO
The reason people have accepted Manny as potentially one of the best ever is due to watching him fight 3 fighters consecutively in Cotto, Clottey and Margarito all different styles between them yet the same outcome - None could hurt Manny. None could trade with him. None could see some of his punches and none could match his energy and ring generalship. Floyd had trouble with much softer opposition and stylistically he has no advantages over Manny @ 147. I know Floyd's skills. I am aware he is the most naturally gifted boxer probably ever to be born. At lightweight I would not bet against him vs Duran or Benny Leonard in his prime.
Ricky had 2 fights at welter.:bart It didn't take 9 rounds to adjust. He had a game plan from the beginning of the fight. He was beating him from beginning to end. The way he broke Hatton down was the perfect example of ring IQ. So Floyd got rocked in the second round, so what. It is what happened after he got rocked. Manny almost got KO in the 6th vs Marg, what happened after that? You would be right if Floyd kept getting hit by Shane after that but he didn't. His skill translates well for the era he is in. No way in hell another fighter beats Floyd at welter besides Pac. IF the fight ever happens you will be surprised about the outcome. People are going to wonder what the hell happened and that Manny wasn't the same. Manny was the same he was just up against a smarter more skilled fighter. Floyd slows the pace of the fight down so Manny is not going to overwhelm Floyd with punches.
I would love it. Funny as it may be I am rooting for Shane. I can say Shane is one of my favorite fighters of all time. I am not a fan of Manny where I root for him. I appreciate Manny but do not cheer for him. When Hopkins or Mosley fight that is when the fan in me comes out.
I think I would have a heart attack. But Pac needs to be tested. If that right doesn't work for shane, I hope he goes into plan B which is to grab Pac and maul the **** outta him. Shane's got to play to win, even if that means playing dirty.:yep
Of course Shane has a shot it is boxing. I just don't know how you prepare for Manny. Every guy that has fought him after their trainer says the same thing. He is just too fast. Well you knew that before ? Problem is how do you find sparring. That is the essence of why southpaws are sometimes difficult in the first place, the element of surprise. this guy worked beyond that to use angles I don't think any sparring partner could do justice in preparing you for. This wasn't the case when he didn't use the right hook with such ease.
yep thats what i was gonna say ....... stay on the back foot , control him with the jab at distance keep your chin way behind your front foot only throw 1 or 2 punches at a time dont get carried away and trade even if your doing well . adjustments are the key always have an escape route if manny starts to flurry throw a straight shot then tie him up if its gotta by ugly ....then so be it ! land your shots then step of on angles not straight lines aim for manny's chest / shoulders to stop him lunging in with combo's as he moves his head alot it may be difficult to land head shots (but you might get lucky ) and catch his head while he moves left to right also punching to the chest neutralises his big left power shot ! The Key is to control him and stay disaplined you have to be big enough and strong enough to hold him off you a fighter like vernon forest could control him with the long jab a fighter like mayweather can pot shot him with 1 or 2 punches and has the upper body / core strength to hold him off if he gets close :deal IT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EASY TASK BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE :think