Bull****. Lets look at the facts. Pacquiao is a boxer puncher with a 67" reach and he's 5'6" inches tall. Mosley has a 74" reach and he's 5'9". Pacquaio isn't an inside fighter. Anyone who's boxed will tell you hows difficult it is to box with somebody who's taller and rangier then you. This is compounded when the other guy is trying to spoil the fight as much as possible. The simple fact is styles make fights. Certain styles make for ugly fights. Have you ever seen Mike Tyson - Bone Crusher Smith? It's one of the ugliest, most boring fights you'll ever see , and that was a peak Tyson. Pacquiao can cut off the ring and he does. Could he be better at it? Yes. But if you watch the fight closely, he was trying to counter Shane's movement with some timed right hooks to the head and body as he turned, and he landed some good shots. And he did cut the ring off at times. But there's little you can do when the other guy is trying to avoid getting hit as much as possible, and doing little in return. Again, Pacquiao isn't an inside fighter. You can't expect him to turn into Roberto Duran all of a sudden and swarm his opponent. Now as far as a potential Mayweather fight goes, this says little about it. For one thing, Floyd is smaller, shorter, and less rangier then Shane is. Two, if Floyd got hit the way Shane was hit, he would stay down , because he doesn't have a great beard despite what some delusional nuthuggers around here will say. Third, in case anyone didn't notice, Shane didn't win a single round of the fight. I don't care how ugly you made the fight look , if your only throwing a few power shots per round , you aren't winning anything. Marquez did well against Pacquiao not only because of movement , but because he countered Pacquiao's aggression with effective combinations. The real reason Pacquiao didnt look good aside from what Shane was doing, was because he wasn't sharp. I've seen Pacquiao's last 4-5 fights, and he's never looked this sloppy and reserved in the ring. Even against Marquez, he looked sharper and more accurate. I attribute it to over training ; it's just a theory, but when a trainer says his fighter looks great at the beginning of camp it tells you he may peak too early. That's what I believe happened with Pacquiao. When have you ever seen him look so stiff with his footwork and his punches? Mosley didn't have anything to do with that.
Now as far as a potential Mayweather fight goes, this says little about it. For one thing, Floyd is smaller, shorter, and less rangier then Shane is. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
Good question. The only time I can think of that happening in his whole career was when Forrest bulled him to the corner and dropped him.
Pacquiao isnt an inside fighter, he wasn't pressing Mosley, he was boxing with him. When all one guy wants to do is turn and keep the other guy off balance and do nothing in return , what can you honestly do aside from going totally out of character being something your not? Check my Mike Tyson - Bonecrusher Smith example. Smith spoiled and held the entire fight, and didn't win a single round. Styles make fights , it's as simple as that.
"Pacquiao can't cut off the ring" i totally agree. i noticed that in the cotto fight, and last night. its a major flaw for a fighter of his calibre. Roach should workout with that especially if they're gonna fight floyd. this is the main reason why i pick floyd over pac. if only pac can cut the distance like hatton can, he'll will be more competitive against floyd.
^ Your correct to a degree, but Roach is very aware of this. I think it's a bad habit more then anything. But as far as Cotto goes, Manny walked him down and destroyed him, and he gave better movement then Shane did. If Manny was sharp, Shane wouldn't have lasted 6 rounds. but like I said, if you actually watch the fight closely Pacquiao did cut off the ring at times, so to say he doesnt know how to is completely false. He was also timing Mosley with right hooks as he stepped to the side. That was part of the gameplan. But it more of a case of styles clashing more then anything.
exactly, I know floyd is 5-8, its only a slight difference with him and shane. He still has a big reach advantage on Pac. Pac is able to negate that with a lot of guys with his speed and movement so someone like margo he could jump in and out of range even though margo is huge. But when your hands are in the same class of speed, that reach advantage for floyd will really help out
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7i87WW-L0[/ame] Floyd had Mosley against the ropes and in the corner
I thought Mosley had a reach of 74' but Showtime showed it as 71 inches. Aren't you one of the spoiled *******s overacting about Pac's performance (Even though he looked better, faster, and sharper than against Margo). I almost made a thread on it but you can't talk sense to ESB. Glad to see sense is showing you that a fighter who's spoiling or being negative makes you look less stellar. But that's an allusion against your abilities, rather than reality. And spoiling is not a matter of styles but just being negative... unless your John Ruiz. As great as Pac looked, and he looked good in there commanding the ring against a fighter who still has handspeed. I never understood any of the talk about Mosley being crafty, smart, slick, and a "good counterpuncher" as Roach called him. Thought that was some nonsense. Mosley, at this juncture in all reality is a shot, old, fidgety fighter who can't really pull the trigger. He didn't look superb against Mayweather, but looked much worse against Manny. One year closer to 40 years old. Lastly, even if Mayweather's chin is overrated. No doubt it as as people (*****s) are deluded into believing his chin is superior to Manny's. That shot would not have even put Mayweather down. If it did, he would've gotten back up. Mosley didn't even look too hurt... just badly embarrassed and surprised. A really mentally broken fighter as each fight, loss, and beating passes on. Worst of all, this fight ain't happening. Face it, guys. Pacquiao basically said "I don't need Floyd, I'm content." And who wouldn't be? The guy is living his life well, and getting paid lumps of money for fighting over-matched opponent after over-matched opponent. Why at the end of the career get into a real battle when your legacy is in tact and you can cash in on easy paydays. He cares "for the fans sake" but he really doesn't care. That interview said it all... it ain't happening.
Pac most certainly does have issues with cutting off the ring....not to say he can't though. He can he just isnt that good at it.
:rofl Cotto ended up running, just like Mosley did. Or maybe you didn't see what really happened to Cotto. Floyd will get his ass knocked the **** out if he steps up to Pacquiao.
I said in my post that Pacquiao wasn't sharp, I think it's undeniable. I noticed in the first round that he was looking stiff. Your wrong about Mosley not being hurt. He was completely dazed when he hit the ground, look at his face if you ever see a replay. He even said after the fight that he was hurt badly. I doubt Mayweather would have gotten up from that shot, if he did he'd be just as effected by it if not moreso then Mosley who's chin is way, way, way more proven then Floyd's has ever been.