What should Mayweather do to Beat Pacquiao? Analysis

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  1. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    You know that's bull****.
     
  2. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Why is the skin colour important again?
     
  3. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet when other people mentions that they're being racist. :huh
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are not really using Judah and Baldomir are you ? Manny is such a different animal counterpunching only puts you in his range. He just has too many punches and varieties of them and those have tried at Welter have ended up getting caught with punches they could not see.

    Easy to counter a fighter that just has a straight left. With Manny he has a 3 different left hand power shots, short,long and bow and arrow and some he extends as if he were 6 feet plus when he throws blinding jabs and comes off his toes to extend it. He throws lead lefts and bends away and can throw lead right hooks. Don't forget he has a granite chin and is an excellent counter puncher himself and the most accurate puncher in boxing + throws combinations.

    Only way to beat him is trade with him throwing combinations finding a pocket. if you don't go toe to toe with him he will own you.

    Floyd has no plan b and does not have the power to keep a very persistant power puncher like Manny and Tszu away. 99% of fighters will reset when Floyd does what he does but Pacquiao will just use angles and will or both and get past the defense.

    You are not going to win a fight going 12 rounds you have to knock him out.
    Nobody has even really won more than a round vs him at WW. Floyd could not shut out Judah, ODLH and if he can't do that it is unlikely he will have much success years away from those fights only older.

    Just a horrific matchup for a fighter that needs someone in with him who reacts to pure boxing skills. Guys like Manny, maybe a prime healthy Kosta Tszu are the exception and why Floyd wants no part. Not to mention he seems completely burnt out and disinterested in fighting and does not have the desire to go to war with his toughest test away from his prime @ his worst weight division. He is built upon being undefeated outboxing fighters he is supposed to outbox. After Castillo his opponents looked everything the polor opposite of Manny and anything but to do with prime power speed and conditioning. (Cotto his last retirement, Tszu, Margartio, Manny (best example)
     
  5. Farmboxer

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    First of all, Void needs to take a Valium and get into a ring with Pac, they we will see Void get the chicken crap beaten out of him!
     
  6. Royal-T-Bag

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    dude are you ****ing ******ed? the fighter with one of the highest ring IQ's and some of best adaptability in the history of the sport has no Plan B? hahaha what a dumb ass comment....proving everything you said is nonsense.

    Even casual fans know Mayweather's that guy that adapts to everyone and make changes mid way through fights/rounds when deemed necessary hahahaha no plan B hahahahaha what a dumb ass.
     
  7. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    like I said easy when your in vs who has been in vs. Power changes everything and you saw that vs Mosley. Adapting to Judah is not adapting to Pacquiao.
    Floyd has never faced a Prime power puncher with speed and conditioning. you don't easily adapt to anything. Mayweather is more cautious and relies on reflexes than just his ring IQ. As Floyd tries to adapt Manny will be changing things as every guys May faced does not have the ability to do that or near the amount of baits and variety of punches and angles.

    More changes. more to adapt to all with having to worry about the power he never faced. Monstrous uphill battle for a fighter with little power at Welter facing one of the best chins at that weight.
     
  8. Bogotazo

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    Become PBF for the first half of the fight. Surprise him with superior accuracy and aggression, backing him up with combinations of lead straight rights & left hooks, and using the quick circling lateral movement that no longer defines his counter-punching wait-on-the-pray style. Then go back to playing Money and use that trademark defense to secure the late rounds and capitalize on his desperate aggression with safe but effective counters once Pac is habituated into slugging and trying to press the action to win on points.
     
  9. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is so obvious that Floyd does not have the reflexes he once had. if Mosley is gonna get to you at 39 and Castillo at his best weight and ODLH can win a few rounds 4 years ago
    Pacquiao has power and conditioning well beyond that and is loads trickier to figure out, there is no way Floyd's defense will be able to hold him off. There is no way Floyd has enough of a proven offense at WW and his age to even get off vs Pacquiao. if it was not such a disaster of a puzzle for Floyd who is past his prime at WW his most vulnerable weightclass, this fight would have happened. Floyd isn't scared he just not interested in going there at this point in his life because the risk just too much to lose the "0" that is all there is to it.
     
  10. paulfv

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    None of those opponents ever knocked down Shane Mosley (possesses that power and speed -- maybe Zab is closest?), nor do they have Pac's workrate.

    Recall, ODLH had Mayweather going fairly well. Then he tired, as ODLH always seemed to do. Chop Chop hurt Mayweather, as did Shane. Zab stung Floyd.

    Pacquiao isn't going to get tired, and he has the power, and he has the chin. It's a tough nut to crack. I agree with Bernstein: The KO victory is likely Floyd's best chance for victory.
     
  11. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    uh you got a point. But still if he can't connect then that power won't matter
     
  12. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if Shantell Mosley could connect ......
     
  13. DobyZhee

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    waste of time of a thread.

    the fight ain't ever happening.
     
  14. daredevil1989

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    so power changes everything? ok so when pac tries to attack and gets hit with hard counter punches he doesn't see coming over and over you don't think it's gonna change his mindset. The way i see it floyd has underrated snap in his punches that combined with his exceptional punch placement and accuracy will be enough to make manny stop and think.Once you get into a thinking game with floyd...well I'll let you clowns figure out the rest
     
  15. CoDer

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    Floyd will only beat Pac's ass for not less than $50M. Oh yeah trow in OSDT while you're at it.