Kirk's ESB Championships 2011

jordan1 · May 13, 2011

freddy-wak said: ↑

bet :good
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motorboater13 · May 13, 2011

Serge Yannick TKO
Roberto Santos UD
Prince Arron TKO
Brian Rose UD
Julio Diaz UD
Sharif Bogere TKO
Noe Gonzalez Alcoba UD
Billi Facundo Godoy UD
Cristian Mijares TKO
Andre Ward UD
Chris Arreola TKO
Jether Oliva TKO

J Griz 757 · May 13, 2011

Finally decided with who I'm gonna pick for today's fights. Had a hard time with my picks so far this week.

Santos UD, Welsh UD, Bogere Tko, Alcoba Tko

Tackleberry · May 13, 2011

Sam Webb by UD, Julio Diaz by KO, Sharif Bogere by KO, Andre Ward by UD, Serge Yannick by KO, Roberto Santos by KO, Brian Rose by UD, Noe Gonzalez Alcoba by KO, Billi Facundo Godoy by UD, Cristian Mijares by KO, Chris Arreola by KO, Jether Oliva by KO

Kirk could you change my picks to this. Didn't have much time last time to look them through properly.

I'm_The_Teacher · May 13, 2011

DemolitionDan said: ↑

Sam Webb vs. Prince Arron- Sam Webb by KO
Kendall Holt vs. Julio Diaz- Julio Diaz by KO
Sharif Bogere vs. Raymundo Beltran- Sharif Bogere by KO
Andre Ward vs. Arthur Abraham- Andre Ward by UD

Ok, now, for the real meat & potatoes for this weekend. All 4 of these fights are exciting in their own way.

Starting off with the fight across the pond off, Sam Webb-Prince Arron is probably the fight that is really intriguing and I'm really looking forward to seeing. The odds on this fight are way off, IMO. This is a pretty close 50/50 type fight. Arron is tall, very tall. And he uses his size perfectly. Long jab, and stands very tall, think Wladimir Klitschko with his style. Arron's career started off a bit shaky as a 160 fighter, but since dropping down to 154 and having Bob Shannon in his corner, his career has done a 180. Sam Webb's experience has been key for him, his style has changed quite a bit. Early on he would be an in-your-face type brawler, but now he boxes uses his jab and he fights smarter. You see his record and he only has 5 KO's, but I think that is a bit misguided so to say. I believe he does have more power than that. This is a very interesting fight really, and I think it will be a crack er of a fight. The key for Webb I belive is countering the jab, Arron throws the jab out quite a bit which you gotta love, but he has a tendicity to drop it after he throws or brings it back slowly. His chin is there to be hit if Webb throws the right hand. Again, I think this is a close fight and I do give Arron a good shot at winning, but I've got Webb winning by late round stoppage.

Sharife Bogere is a very hot prospect and this is a very nice step up fight for him. Beltran is a bit long in the tooth now, but still a very good fight for a prospect such as Bogere. Bogere is very talented, good power, terrific speed. Beltran may get overwelmed early, but if he can survive then we may see Bogere go quality rounds with a quality opponent. I've got a hunch though that Bogere will breakdown Beltran. Beltran may survive early, but Bogere's youth will survive him well and may'be that the stoppage late.

As a side note, this is on Showtime. Billed as the "Undefeated Prospect Card" You gotta watch this ShoBox. Unfortunately, Gary Russell Jr. pulled out so he won't get the big lights, but Heavyweight Seth Mitchell is the headliner. Big test for him going up against Evans Quinn. Quinn can bang, we shall see if Mitchell is for real.

Now, my favorite fight this weekend on Friday Night Fights, Kendall Holt-Julio Diaz. Just a little over a year ago Kendall Holt slumped on his stool, quitting against Kaizer Mabuza. Julio Diaz almost a year ago was celebrating a nice win against former title challenger Heman Ngoudjo. Now, both are facing each other, big huge fight for both. A crossroads fight. Win and you keep moving on up, a loss and both of them will have a hard look and really have to decide is it worth it still. Both fighters have great resumes, they've been there and done that. It's all about styles in this fight. Kendall Holt folds under pressure and I don't know if he is really up and still dedicated to boxing. I know Diaz is, he's working hard and pouring his heart into it. I just don't know with Holt, he lacks mental strength and heart. I think if Holt's heart and mind is in it, I think he'll win, but if it isn't I think Diaz will beat him and may'be even knock him out. Holt's daydreaming after 2 rounds is just too much of a risk. Diaz by last round stoppage.

The easiest fight to predict what will happen. Ward-Abraham. This fight is going two ways. Either Abraham catches Ward and KO's him or Ward beats him and wins every round by UD....and then the very very small chance of Ward actually stopping Abraham or Abraham winning by decision. I'd give both of those about 0.5% chance, because you can never say never. AA's heart might not be in it and he just quits on his stool and AA could knockdown Ward 4 or 5 times and get the decision. In all seriousness though let's get to the fight itself, and I don't think it's as easy as some people are suggesting. I do give Ward a major major chance of winning this fight, as really anybody should, but I'm definitely not counting out Abraham due to the fact that he does have a major punch, but also due to the fact that Ward does not have a strong jab. He paws with the jab and he isn't consistent with it. Ward isn't a big guy so I don't think his jab will knock back Abraham. This isn't Froch or Dirrell who are big guys and have good power jabs. So, that gives Abraham a good chance, and also can Ward hang on for 12 rounds of sticking, moving, and trying not to get hit by Abraham. He will be tested mentally. Also, his style leaves him vulnerable at times. He jabs comes in and clinches...he comes in and he leaves himself exposed just a bit. You can work in an uppercut. Also, Ward leaves himself exposed when you throw a jab out there. What he does, now I doubt if Abraham will do this I'm just talking about a flaw I see in Ward's game that somebody down the line could possibly take advantage of, but you if you jab, may'be double up the jab and get close enough, Ward dips to his right side. He leaves himself vulnerable if you jab and boom shoot a left uppercut.

Anyway, with all that said I do fancy Abraham having a pretty good shot. He's got a decent enough shot. Key points: Ward doesn't have a strong jab, average chin, not real big, likes to come in and clinch a lot giving AA a shot to land a straight power punch. I'll be looking forward to it, should be fun for all 36 minutes to see whether or not Abraham can catch Ward.
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Thanks mate for the tip. I took your advice abd took prince i one a lot of money. This isnt the first time and it definatly won't be the last time i made a post about good posters i think it got earased but you are good poster thank you.

kirk · May 13, 2011

Pretty random but just came across this highlight and hadnt seen it before, figured id put it here. Good stuff

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQV3G5CcOp0[/ame]

alright im about to take off, hope everyone has a good evening of fights :good

kingalex · May 13, 2011

Increasing my offer:

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Beenie · May 13, 2011

Mijares UD
Ward UD
Arreola TKO

jordan1 · May 13, 2011

I have $400 to wager on Andre Ward you can have Arthur Abraham.

Wager as much up to $400.:good

jordan1 · May 13, 2011

Tttt

lufcrazy · May 14, 2011

Bajingo said: ↑

I'll do that. So if AA knocks out Ward you get $40 and anything else I get $20 right?
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Deal, exactly that interpretation. If aa forces a stoppage by ten count or corner retirement or basically any t/ko scenario a win. Every other ending you win.

Put it up kirk

BigBone · May 14, 2011

Results:

Yannick SD12 Taylor
Arron TKO12 Webb fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk
Holt TKO3 Diaz
Bogere UD10 Beltran
Alcoba TKO9 Padilla

Tackleberry · May 14, 2011

BigBone said: ↑

Results
Arron TKO12 Webb fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk
Holt TKO3 Diaz

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:twisted: wrong upsets!! WAR ABRAHAM!!!!!

FIGHTER2R · May 14, 2011

Jordan1, i'll take your wager. $400.00 on abraham to win. As for my picks abraham tko.

BigBone · May 14, 2011

And Rose won by TKO. War Double A!

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