new scoring system in amateur boxing

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  1. catch22

    catch22 Member Full Member

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    40-12. They havent gone back to scoring pitter patta punches have they?

    Where most scores in the 10-20 range?
     
  2. raxman

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    hell no - beau penny is a beast. no pitter patter for him. what's happening is they are scoring all of the inside stuff that has been in the past.

    10-20 range? yeah i suppose they were around that. i only actually saw a few fights and they varied a bit - certainly the two fights with the 3mins scored high.

    its actually hard to say because this was a really active card fight wise. i saw some of the best - from an action point of view - amateur cards i've seen.

    whether this was a case of the personel or the new system i'm not sure.

    certainly not having a running score means that the corner can't yell out to their fighter in the last round to run coz he has a 5 point lead.
     
  3. Canello

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    Saw the new scoring system in place on Sunday, definately much better as they were scoring body shots and the scores seemed to be higher, I think the fighters ate more inclined to fight for the whole fight, rather than build a lead and just move off because alot more punches get scored so it's good, the work rate is higher and it's a more entertaining fight, the only thing I'm not sure about is if they have changed the rule with the standing 8 count, before I think if you got 3 standing 8 counts they would stop the fight, on Sunday I noticed they stopped afew fights after two very soft 8 counts, the guys hardly got hit, does anybody know if there is a change in that regard?
     
  4. catch22

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    Thanks for the feedback. Cant wait til we get the new scoring system in WA.

    Im not aware of any changes to the 8 count. From memory the Youth div (and younger) get 2x8count in a round or 3x8 counts over entire bout before the fight is called off. Seniors get 4x8 over 3 rounds or 3x8 count in a round.
     
  5. Canello

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    These guys were intermediate seniors and they got 2*8 counts and the fight was called off both very even fights and you couldn't even see a solid punch land and I was ringside
     
  6. catch22

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    They would of been West Australian judges then with their mother in the crowd.
     
  7. raxman

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    No change in the rules - just a ref's discretion thing. i was in the corner of the second last fight that was waved off after the second standing count. if the ref hadnt done it i probably would've - even though our boy wasnt really hurt his opponent was a bit too tasty and i know we didnt have the answer - i actually beat myself up a bit that i let him come out for the third - he got an 8 prior to the bell in 2nd and it was clear he didnt have what it was going to take to win

    both boys were suppose to be in their first fight. i'm not one to cast aspersions but - he looked pretty comfortable for someone in their first fight.

    i hope there were no schenigans - too often boxers claim to be in their first fight but then you discover they had a dozen in the league.

    i really don't know how you could want to manipulate the sport like that just to get a win against some poor bloke who is legitimately have his first fight - all it does is scare off a potenetial figther.

    let me stipulate that in no way am i claiming that the moorabbin boy (who won the second last fight) falls into this category - he was just very good and more to the point very comfortable for a newbie
     
  8. Canello

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    I didn't see that fight, but unfortunately in terms of peoples records (nothing to do with the bloke you fought) there is alot of lies, everybody wants there boy to win and alot of people cover up any prior experience whether it's in the legue or even in kickboxing, so their matched up with someone with alot less experience than them, it's a shame but there is no real way to stamp it out
     
  9. DBerry

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    I think that was against our boy Todd, if it was, then that was 100% his first fight, Steve Kerr is very honest and fair when it comes to matching our boys, but Todd surprised even me, he fought exactly how he trains in the gym, and how he spars, it's a rare thing.
     
  10. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    India's take on the new amateur scoring system just used in the tournament won by Damian Hooper:


    Mixed response for new scoring system

    from The Hindu dot com - 15th May 2011


    The newly-introduced scoring system has generated a wide range of reactions from the boxing fraternity.

    Three prominent Indian boxers have varied views on the topic, while some officials feel that the change is good for the game.

    World and Olympic medallist Vijender Singh thinks the old system was more exciting for the spectators. “With the scores ticking on the board, the excitement was more for the viewers. But the game has become more attacking than before,” said Vijender, who arrived here on Sunday after his first experience of the new system in the Arafura Games in Australia.

    Stamina factor

    Since the scores are now revealed after the end of each round, it demands a lot of stamina from the boxer. However, it is not an issue for Vijender. “It hardly makes any difference. After all, you have to land your punches in order to win a bout.”

    Seasoned pugilist Akhil Kumar, who made a comeback in the Arafura Games after his disappointing performance in the Commonwealth Games last October, was encouraged after getting a hang of the new scoring system.

    “It is very much suited to my kind of boxing. It has brought back the beauty of the game, now you can have more variety of punches — you get points from upper cuts and hooks. It shows the smartness and skills of a boxer. There is fairness in scoring and you earn a point for each legitimate punch,” said Akhil, who is now focused on earning a berth for the Olympics by performing well in the World championship this year.

    Five-time World champion woman boxer M.C. Mary Kom also had her views on the novel system after getting a gold medal in the Asian Cup. “It was more or less the same thing for me. Being an aggressive boxer, I did not feel the need to change my game,” she said.

    Old system preferred

    Several young woman boxers who recently achieved success in the recent World junior and youth championship preferred the old system (in which defence was the key). “The previous system was good. The new system requires a lot of stamina,” said S. Sarjubala, the 48kg World youth champion.

    India's youth women's coach D. Chandralal and one of the senior women's team coaches, Sagarmal Dhayal, gave their verdict in favour of the new system as it had prompted more exchange of blows and provided equal chance for every boxer.

    Indian Boxing Federation (IBF) Secretary Brig. P.K. Muralidharan Raja, who was an international referee and judge, also favoured the change. “It has brought in fairness and transparency. It has made boxing more attractive and produces big margin scores. Besides, there is less pressure on the judges,” said Brig. Raja.

    Only time will tell whether the changes give the spectators that extra thrill the International Boxing Association (AIBA) is looking for.
     
  11. makkat

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    Credit goes to AIBA for making the change.

    Nobody at Moorabbin gets the key to the equipment room? :lol: