Do You Endorse Blood Testing ?

http://mmajunkie.com/news/16045/ask-the-doc-with-steroid-and-hgh-testing-is-blood-or-urine-best.mma

"Anyway, urine testing is cheaper, less invasive (no needle stick required) and has fewer potential complications (not unless peeing on your hand is considered a complication) than blood testing.

Blood screening is more sensitive (more likely to detect a banned substance), detects more banned substances, and is more difficult to beat through "masking" methods. Blood screening is the current standard for detecting abnormally elevated levels of synthetic human growth hormone (HGH)."

 

the only reason for a """""""""""""""""boxing"""""""""""""""" fan for not wanting this is because they are afraid of their favorite boxer getting caught other than this, there is absolutely no reason for not wanting to ensure the cleanness of the sport. Weakening because of drug testing? yeah , like mayweather against mosley, full random blood testing and he was soooo weak, he putt an ass whooping

 

Not about what Manny wants. The Nevada State Athletic Commission did an independent study to possibly include blood testing in their drug testing procedure. The findings were that not only blood testing was unnecessary but also potentially dangerous to fighters who already stand to lose more blood in a fight.

 

Uhm.. ok... so instead of addressing the issues of the major flaws of blood testing and it actually solves nothing you instead come up with a straw man argument. Good. That solves it. Good job.

Because it actually solves very little. All it will likely do is that promoters and sanctioning bodies the ability to suck out more purse money from the boxers themselves.

And if the boxer does not want to pay for it, every douche from ESB will accuse him of being a cheater.

Blood testing is not the solution, when even WADA don't think it is either.

 

I do as long as the testing itself has no impact on the outcome fight.

I would support random blood and urine testing year round for all title holders and mandatory challengers. Paid for with the sanctioning fees. Also, I would say that a cut-off date is a reasonable request, as fighters need to be in their comfort zone leading up to big fights. I think a cut-off with a post fight test is reasonable.

 

I think the fighters who are the ones at risk should very well be able to ask for each other to participate in this type of testing.

Whether they both agree is another story..

however.....why wouldnt you agree?

 

He agreed to the blood test. The issue is when to stop it. 7 days or 14 days out is adequate to catch any drug use. There is also the sample after the fight. To say up till the fight or its not effective is just bull **** and people see it.

If its real OSDT PBF wants then why doesn't he become that trail blazzer and sign up with Wada and do the year round thing:deal That right. Cause it has nothing to do with cleaning anything or setting an example. It is just a negotiation ploy.

 

You should follow up and ask him how many have gotten caught from HGH blood testing and its actual accuracy.

I will wait.

 

If its purpose is cleaning the sport of boxing, yes.

 

This is all fact. Makes me wonder why Floyd finds a 7 day cutoff with post fight blood test unacceptable, since in no way can a person flush out abnormally elevated levels of HGH in that time period or even reap it's benefits to begin with. :think

 

it is broke, roid cheats are dominating fighters who train hard and put in the work.

 

As it is the right of the guy asking for the test it is also reasonable for the guy conceding to the test for a date which he will not be disturb leading up to one of his biggest fight of his career. No one here will argue that stopping the blood test 7 or 14 days prior to the fight is not good enough. It is more then enough.

So why is that not good enough? What PED is he taking that will be of use to him with that short of a time frame? The last 2 weeks is now down to finalizing strategies. Not intense workout.

Demands are a two way street when their is no rule governing it.

 

I 100% agree. It should happen as it is deemed necessary. It should not happen just because a ducking guy calls for it as an excuse to get out of a fight. Cleaning the sport BS, if a guy is actually cleaning the sport, it should be an active and an ongoing project even when there is no fight scheduled. But where is the cleaning the sport right now? The guy's got a big mouth, he should be able to talk sense and people will listen. Problem is, very few selected people listen to the guy.

 

why would a clean boxer , not pay for it when the have more than enough money for it and the fight will give them moooore money

mandatory blood testing equals no test no fight and no fight, no earnings so there you go, problem solved

 

No, this is simply wrong. Don't just parrot what you've heard; do your own due diligence.

Then HE DID NOT AGREE. The POINT of OSDT is for the testing to be RANDOM. RANDOM, as to DISCOURAGE the use of PED's. The knowledge of when testing will absolutely NOT occur defeats the purpose of OSDT. Some steroids take no more than 2 to 3 days for the effects to be masked. A 7 day cutoff is bull****, plain and simple. Roach originally said Manny usually need 2 to 3 days to recover from a blood test before the fight. Where did 7 days come from? It is too wide of a window...period.