did mike tyson ever punch out of a clinch or push opponent back?

1. except the ruddock and maybe the bruno fights - give me 3 examples where tyson pushed back an opponent during a clinch.

2. even more difficult, except the green fight and holy round 5, find 3 examples where tyson punched his way out of the clinch rather than wait for the ref to break them.

i tried and i can't. i'm not bashing tyson - he makes my top 10. just an observation.

 

that out of ~60 fights, during clinches, he never pushed back an opponent or punched his way out. he did 0. imo - that's remarkable.

 

bad thing. a clinch is when a short armed fighter like him should do a lot of damage. this bad habit also allowed opponents to neutralize him e.g. smith, holy, lewis. if he was active on the inside - he'd have done better.

he's still a strong guy. and he'd still want the opponent cornered. it'd be to his advantage. i poorly worded - instead of pushing back - has tyson ever dominated a clinch. no. it is to his great disadvantage to do NOTHING (my observation) and let someone like holyfield position him as he wants. it IS tyson's prerogative to do something when being pushed around by holy. he IS capable of it but chooses not to, god knows why.

pretty useless and dumb tactics. punching is a much better idea :good

 

in all fairness - that is a very tough combo to avoid, EVEN if you know it is coming. it is extremely fast for one, and second, body shots are paralyzing, leaving you vulnerable for the uppercut. this case had more to do with mike tyson not being very smart and not throwing body shots for most of the fight but just head hunting. i have not seen mike tyson's body shot attempts be neutralized. whenever tyson threw body shots or right hand leads at holyfield - he had high success rate. too bad these weapons were used few and far in between.

 

do provide examples if you can :good

 

you made a good post but i regret you typed such a long post in response to something i already agreed with. i must not have been clear. of course tyson was god awful on the inside, and holyfield was his daddy on the inside! what i am saying though - and this is in direct disagreement - is that holyfield would have BEEN very vulnerable to mike tyson's body shots. it is NOT that holyfield did something (you say smother) to neutralize tyson throwing a BODY shot - it is that tyson himself was stupid and did NOT throw body shots but opted for head hunting. and yes, smothering tyson greatly NEUTRALIZED shots to the HEAD but same would be true for body shots had tyson attempted it. i ask you this: can you give 3 examples where tyson attempted a shot to the body and holyfield neutralized it, during those 15 rounds? i dare to say you'll struggle.

evander holyfield had no answer for mike tyson's awesome STRAIGHT right hand lead. 34 year old holy looks like he is in slow motion, like he is frozen (i think it was around the first minue of the fight- common camera angle is behind tyson's head looking at holy). damond had earlier mentioned an interview where holy explains why tyson got him so good in the opening - he was expecting left hooks. for whatever reason, tyson abandons the right after round 1 and starts throwing loopy, predictable left hooks - grossly misusing his hook in place of the right. i never understood this. round 5 tyson throws BODY shots (that is the ONLY round i recall where tyson threw body shots) and holy is in pain. it wasn't just that one combination that got holy - it was others. and those were tough to avoid because tyson threw 3-4 punch combinations with blinding speed (the only 3-4 punch combination from him in the whole series). had tyson chosen to keep this OBVIOUS strategy (too bad he didn,t could have should have no one cares - holy whipped his ass - end of story - i just comment this on his behalf), holyfiedl would have struggled to give an answer!

holyfield whipped tyson because tyson was awful on the inside. tyson had poor strategy. he could have should have (1) punched to body, preferably in combinatons, when clinched by holyfield on the inside. go after the head later (2) used the right hand lead much more often rather than be one armed. these two things. tyson was an awful inside fighter because he ignored #1 and he just plain didn't do anything. i also guarantee you that had tyson done #1 with douglas - he' have ko'd douglas, faced holyfield in 1992 (and lost). i don't know exactly what the point of this post was but i wanted to share an opinion with you. i know you'v been a longtime fan of holy.