Haye VS Wlad - Question.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Think, May 22, 2011.


  1. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    As many posters have heard over the weekend, George Groves beat James DeGale in a great fight, many people expected Groves to be blown out of the water and stopped, including myself, but he came with a great game-plan and took the victory.

    Adam Booth is obviously the man that came up with the game-plan and he deserves credit for it, especially when so many "experts" saw an easy night for DeGale.

    All I was wondering was, does that inspire anybody to believe that Haye can have the same story with Wlad, if Booth, once again comes up with a great game-plan?

    Personally, I think yes, I think too many people underrate game-plans and look too closely at fighters performances and forget all the work that is going on behind the scenes.

    And I am not a fan of either guy, for the record, I can't be bothered to get involved with all the pointless **** about these guys, the same with Floyd and Manny.
     
  2. withoutwire

    withoutwire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Haye will follow a similar gameplan I'd imagine but his task is far greater.

    1. Haye has a much larger gap to close when countering. Groves is only an inch shorter than Degale but Haye is 4" shorter than Wlad. So Haye will need to be quicker coming in, and have the defence to not get hit on the way in.

    2. Groves could afford to take a few on the cheen from Degale because Degale isn't a huge puncher. Wlad would KO Haye if he landed similarly clean punches.

    3. Unlike Groves, Haye can't win a decision. Wlad has never lost a decsion in his pro career and isn't going to start against a guy who's a banger and not a boxer. Wlad's jab and home advantage means Haye will be forced to go for the KO, and will have to take more risks.

    That said, Haye will be less of an underdog than Groves was!
     
  3. BUDW

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  4. p4pBute

    p4pBute Active Member Full Member

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    Wlad could lose, not saying it can't happen. an hayes is a puncher, saying this, wlad is a p4p champ, he been in the pro game along time, an for the past 11 years he has caried a major belt every year but 3 of them. He has lost maybe 10 rounds in those 11 years at a champion ship level. Hayes will need more then booth to prevent a pizza from forming on his face.
     
  5. ÉL86

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    Quite possibly...

    I see Booth and Haye employing a hit and move gameplan. Will it work? I don't know. But I imagine their gameplan will not get Haye KO'd. He'll at the very least give a decent account in a losing effort.
     
  6. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    In terms of world/Euro level DeGale and Groves are both prospects, so there is still a lot we don't know about both of them. Haye is taking on an established champion who has been on top of the division for years. Whatever happens between Klitschko and Haye (and nobody can say for certain) it's fair to say no one will be getting exposed. We already have an idea of the weaknesses of both fighters
     
  7. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    wlad, an established amateur, olympic gold medalist, over 50 pro fights, 18 world title fights...its gonna take a little more than a game plan for a guy like haye to win...his game plan that would be th eonly one that can work, is to land a big punch...he wont outbox wlad...wlads not a 10-0 fighter like degale and groves
     
  8. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree with both of these but I'd say Haye has less of a chance of winning than Groves did.
     
  9. withoutwire

    withoutwire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Retrospectively that's an easy call though! :good
     
  10. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye can obviously beat Wlad. It's not like Wlad has a good chin or anything, and with Haye's combination of hand speed and power anythings possible. I think it's the first time in Wlad's career he's stepping in the ring against a guy whose a better athlete than him. While I am favoring Wlad in this fight, it will be his toughest opponent since Sam Peter back in September of 05.
     
  11. Think

    Think The Sport Of Kings Full Member

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    I agree with all the points!

    Haye and Adam have a lot to do.

    But with Hayes speed and power, anything is possible!
     
  12. Heavyrighthand

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    Agree
     
  13. TheGOAT

    TheGOAT The Champ is Here ! banned

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    I am anxious to see this fight. It is funny to note that Rahman was probably the truest/hardest hitting opponent Wlad has faced, the ******* was WAY TOO SLOW to mount any kind of offense.

    Haye will be able to land something. And when he does, the ChinCheckers will be there.
     
  14. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think when Haye lands, you'll see that Wlad's ability to take it is not as bad as most want to believe.
     
  15. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, I thought Groves had more of a chance than most people here did, and I don't mean betting odds wise, just results.