Hopkins would have beaten Calzaghe decisively in a rematch. Yes/No?

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  1. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    No it's not
     
  2. Calzaghe #1

    Calzaghe #1 Active Member Full Member

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    Thats funny, wasnt it hopkins trying to do the tango with calzaghe and fouling and feigning injury.
    Perhaps the clever man knew it was his only chance to see his way through to the final bell :good
    As for thinking he won the first fight :rofl Hilarious
     
  3. Exposed

    Exposed *** East Side VIP **** Full Member

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    You're obviously not as intelligent as I thought. Now you're resorting to false predications to support your flimsy arguments. First, Ben Dirs is the main writer for BBC Sports (under BBC News) for boxing coverage who is always at ringside for major fights, including Hopkins-Calzaghe. "BBC News" wouldn't be different than "BBC Sports", because they're one and the same. As for radio, you probably listened in on redistributed broadcast from an independent telecast (which is often done on BBC Radio). So let me refresh you again, the BBC officially scored Hopkins-Calzaghe for Hopkins. The man's name is Ben Dirs, look it up. Or. how about this...why don't you NAME these "official BBC" telecasters. You can't, because you pulled it out of your ass.

    And by the way, your statement about "BBC" being "English" shows you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. BBC = BRITISH BROADCASTING COMPANY. It's own mission statement states its main purpose is to provide a public broadcasting system for all of the United Kingdom. It has offices all over the UK, just because its CORPORATE headquarters is in London doesn't mean its "English" :roll:


    And you might wanna check your facts, although it seems you're now making up facts hoping no one would see through them. The AP and ESPN scored the fight for Calzaghe....oh really?

    "Judge Ted Gimza scored it 115-112 for Calzaghe, and Chuck Giampa favored Calzaghe 116-111. Judge Adalaide Byrd gave it 114-113 to Hopkins, as did many reporters at ringside -- including The Associated Press, which also favored Hopkins 114-113 despite Calzaghe's dominance in the final five rounds.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3355206

    "ESPN.com also had it 114-113 for Hopkins, but by the end of the fight, it was Calzaghe taking it to the 43-year-old. "
    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/columns/story?columnist=rafael_dan&id=3355228


    Show me where the NY Times scored the fight for Calzaghe (this should be fun, since the NY Times does not have a dedicated boxing writer and simply redistributes Associated Press articles).

    No wonder Calzaghe fans are delusional. They like to rewrite history :roll:

    Maxboxing? A boxing forum website? :lol: If you want to reference Lederman, then you damn better stick by his other scorecards as well. By the way, Mike Tyson is one of the most knowledgeable boxing historians out there, and here's who he thought won the fight:

    Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson, told MaxBoxing/***********.com's Javier Molina that he saw Hopkins winning the fight, but is not upset with the decision going the other way.

    "It was a good fight. I thought Bernard won though. But, I'm happy that Calzaghe won this. It was a good fight," Tyson said.

     
  4. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hell no. Hopkins has problems with Calzaghe because Calzaghe wont let him dictate the pace of the fight. Hopkins like the fight to be slow pace. If you make the fight high speed then you have a good chance at beating him. Hopkins had no problems with Pascal because Pascal fights in spurts. Hopkins would have problems Calzaghe again.
     
  5. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Pugulist power guy is Calslappy dick rider who don't shyt about boxing.
     
  6. Exposed

    Exposed *** East Side VIP **** Full Member

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    Hey idiot, that's a reprinted Associated Press article in that NY Times link, exactly as I said. In fact, it's the exact same associated press article in the first link I posted :lol:.

    Let me spell it out for you, from your NY Times link:


    Calzaghe Rallies vs. Hopkins

    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: April 20, 2008

    "....Judge Ted Gimza scored it 115-112 for Calzaghe, and Chuck Giampa favored Calzaghe, 116-111. Judge Adelaide Byrd had it, 114-113, for Hopkins, as did many reporters at ringside...."



     
  7. AJ5

    AJ5 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ...........
     
  8. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins' fans are racist just like Hopkins.
     
  9. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calfaggy fans are owned again.
     
  10. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    If you look at it logically, the outcome most likely would have been a more decisive victory for Calzaghe. Hopkins had every conceivable advantage leading up to the fight minus age - to the weight (that he was accustomed to), to the judges, and the location. Not to mention Hopkins tried his best to steal a victory via cheating tactics. He spoiled the fight. Calzaghe was the one attacking, fighting off the front foot, and still Hopkins (who's best when being attacked) couldn't swipe a win.

    I personally believe Calzaghe under trained and underestimated Hopkins, due to his age. Joe didn't bring the same intensity to the ring that he's known for. Taking all these things into account, if a rematch would have materialized, Calzaghe fly-swats his ass around the ring after two rounds of being cautious. Punches in bunches is what he would bring to the rematch (it still would be an ugly fight because of their styles).

    Calzaghe wide UD .
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Without a referee completely biased towards Hopkins, being more comfortable at the weight, the location being in Britain and so on, you'd have to assume a rematch would lead to a wide Calzaghe points win. Most rounds would be close but clear and it would eventually end up 8-4 or something similar.

    Calzaghe just had his number.
     
  12. Leeroy

    Leeroy Do it Do it Full Member

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    Oops. Forgot to include the ref into my post. Throw that in there too for another Hopkins advantage.
     
  13. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah but Pascal is not Calzaghe. Calzaghe would school Pascal ,more severely than Hokins did
     
  14. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe wins a rematch no doubt. Hopkins fought dirty and cagey because he knew full well that he`d get out fought going toe to toe in an aggressive stance. Just goes to show how much Hopkins really respected Joes skills. I see people writing that the way Hopkins fought against Pascal would beat Calzaghe ????? Pascal is not Calzaghe styles make fights, get real!!!!
     
  15. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    Calzaghe beats Hopkins 10 out of 10 times.