P4P Battle. Who was the Best Number 1. RJJ Vs Floyd Vs Pac Vs DLH

Mayweather was the best boxer of that lot IMO.

My list....

Mayweather
Jones jr
Pacquiao
Delahoya

 

IMO Oscar was never the best p4p (I thought it passed directly from Pea to RJJ, personally) & if you replace DLH with Whitaker or Chavez on the poll I vote for either of them before FMJ, RJJ or Pacman.

 

Pac
RJJ
Floyd
Oscar

 

I say Roy but Pac is exciting to watch as well!

 

Wasn't Roy ranked in the top 5 p4p for over a decade ?

 

Roy jones jr.
Floyd Mayweather jr.
Manny Pacquiao
Oscar De La Hoya

 

how is it a myth? it was very clear to see that vargas wasn't the same fighter after trinidad. most people agree.

flores and rivera were ok fighters, but nothing more. rivera wasn't even a puncher but was able to drop and hurt vargas. and flores (if memory serves me right) shook vargas pretty badly. he then got into the ring with de la hoya over trained, and looked terrible. he wasn't able to let his punches flow smoothly because he was that stiff. he also had steroids in his system. as i say, good win for oscar but nothing more.

i agree with the mosley fight (the first one anyway). he put up a spirited effort but looked shot to hell. that's because he was.

i scored the quartey fight wider than i scored the sturm one. IT WAS A ROBBERY!!. if you can't see that, then that just means you don't know how to score a fight.

trinidad and mosley 2 were robberies? i scored the trinidad fight a draw, but wasn't fussed that felix got the win as it was he who tried make the fight happen. oscar spent too much time in that one running. especially the last three where he did nothing. that's why they gave him the decision.

i also gave mosley the win in the second fight by a point. to call both those fights ROBBERIES, shows that you don't know how to score a fight properly . :deal

 

Manny Pacquiao
Oscar De La Hoya
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Roy Jones Jr.

 

Rj by a mile. Better opponents. In their prime.
Oscar arguably beat Tito and Mosley in the rematch.
Floyd arguably lost to Castillo, but avenged that in the rematch.
Pacman has wins over the best of his contemporaries, but not without a loss to Morales and controversial win over Marquez.

 

The only boxers of that choice to fight at a weight they don't belong and successfully win were RJ and Pac. That to me is what P4P means, to fight at a weight above thier weight class and beat them regardless of thier lbs. However Pac stayed at the weight where RJ only did it one time. Oscar fought the best at thier prime so he deserves a lot of credit. He also fought fighters who were known to be on steroids at the time they fought (Mosley and Vargas). Floyd great talent poor resume.

 

Ability
1.RJJ
2.PBF
3.Pac
4.Oscar

Skill
1.PBF
2.RJJ
3.Oscar
4.Pac

 

Thats because in my honest opinion most people are wrong. Vargas fought Trinidad and put in a decent performance on the way to his stoppage, but in his fights after that he put in 3 good showings, in two of those cases blowing out tough guys, before losing to Oscar in a similar way he lost to Trinidad. He put in a good showing but got hit too much and got broke down by power shots. Now to say a fighter like Rivera isn't a power puncher is...while not incorrect as such doesn't deal with Rivera's awkwardness which was on show in his fights with Whitaker, Mosley and yes, Vargas. I also happen to think your selling Rivera short as a power puncher, the guy could certainly put people out. Flores didn't have much to him but Vargas got the stoppage in the end just as he did with Rivera. The Vargas way astwhere. What finished Vargas was a number of things, his weight management, taking too much punishment against big hitters like Mosley, de la Hoya and Trinidad and the fact he faced a whole lot of quality competition in such a short space. For me the idea of Trinidad finishing Vargas is a myth. Like I said I proportion the Trinidad and de la Hoya wins as equal, while I don't like to take the steroids factor into account you have to remember de la Hoya was smaller whereas Trinidad was bigger and in my honest opinion Vargas showed no signs of damage, his style was all wrong for facing power punchers like Oscar and Tito.

I have my final Quartey card, but I've scored that fight from anything to 3,2 or 1 rounds to Oscar. My final card has Oscar by a point and I'd be willing to post that if you wished to see it. While I don't have a Sturm card I think I may have scored that fight 10-2 to Sturm while I scored the Tito fight 9-3 to Oscar. Mosley 2 I had something like 8-4 but in the next few days I will gain final scorecards for each fight.

If you think the Tito fight was a draw and your scoring the Quartey bout wider to Quartey than you are scoring the Sturm fight to Sturm...there is still hope on you learning how to score a fight. bbb

 

Why no Mosley or Hopkins? :huh Both were p4p#1.

From the options listed, I say Pac over RJJ. RJJ was more peerless at his peak, but Pacquiao has fought better comp and that is important in p4p terms.

 

ODLH was p4p#1 briefly in the late 90s after Jones-Griffin I and after he "beat" Sweet Pea. I think he got it more on account of fame than anything else.

 

RJJ was most dominant but I think these days Floyd and Pac are equally as dominant, against much tougher competition.

Ask yourselves, how often did you really look forward to a RJJ fight because you thought it was dangerous? After RJJ established himself...Ruiz...?

ODLH was too inconsistent to ever maintain #1 against those guys.