As timr passes, does Dirrells issues become more legit looking?

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  1. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    says the keyboard warrior who would never get in the ring and/or be even 1/100th successful as dirrell has been
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    :good
     
  3. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Playful tap????
    You're clearly a complete tool. Be gone. Id liek to see how you'd take that playful tap,dickhead
     
  4. kylmac85

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    I don't think he was knocked unconscious but I def think he got a concussion. The confusion and everything else is very consistent with a concussion. I don't think anything was fishy about any of the in ring ****. I def think they used it as an excuse to pull out of the tournament though. The perceived their stock to have been much higher after the first two fights than what it was when they signed up. They felt they deserved and could get more money for the Ward fight so they made the biz decision to bow out. I don't think he's a coward, I just think his team is greedy/unethical. That being said I think it was extremely shortsighted in that they haven't made money in a year, they are potentially black listed from the premium channels, and citing neurological issues is about the stupidest thing a boxer could do.
     
  5. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Because he knows if he came back too soon people would know he's a fraud and he'd get no money so the argument that the longer he leaves it the less money het gets isn't a valid one.
     
  6. irishny

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    So you're saying he makes more money by not fighting??:think

    He wouldnt make more money by say....doing his job?
     
  7. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I disagree 100%! He got whacked on the floor! Maybe the situation was exaggerated slightly because of his reaction after the fight. But he wasn't acting. He was genuinely confused as to what had happend and the order of the series of events.
     
  8. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was capable to box against Ward but chose not to. His team are now suffering the consequences because Showtime don't want to put his ass on their boxing cards for the time being... Don't look for reasons anywhere else.
     
  9. nightmare nick

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    I don't pretend to know medicine but in an amateur fight I had, I suffered a concussion and memory loss without ever losing consciousness. When the fight was stopped I was complaining and my trainer and my dad sent me to the back to take a shower. About 20 minutes later they found me just wondering around not knowing how I had got there. My point is I don't remember any of this and I was conscious the whole time.
     
  10. SomeGuy101

    SomeGuy101 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Correct. Would you pay to be conned by a fraudster?
     
  11. dcb154

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    Just curious...what "evidence" of a brain injury are you asking for? You do realize that today's medical imaging isn't useful for diagnosing concussions.

    There is also a HUGE difference beween "sparring" and fighting. How many shades of sparring have you seen in the gym...it comes in all flavors.
     
  12. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about a statement from a REAL doctor?

    Listen. Sparring means there's an overt risk of getting punched in the head. Even though I'm a layman I guarantee you that no REAL doctor would allow sparring when you suffer from a serious braininjury.
     
  13. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Exactamundo!
     
  14. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    I never questioned it from the start. only Euros did.
     
  15. dcb154

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    There is this thing known as patient confidentiality involved too. HIPPA guidelines and all that.

    Your guarantee would suggest that any physician who follows the CDC's "Return to Play" guidelines is not a REAL doctor.

    I'm not picking at you bro, just highlighting the relevant, but minimally publicized information that is out there.

    http://www.cdc.gov/concussion/headsup/physicians_tool_kit.html

    If you take a look at the "ACE" for school or work, it has a step-wise checklist of return to play...try to put in in the context of boxing, and you'll see what I mean.

    Also, it should be noted that just because he may or may not be sparring, doesn't mean he's doing it with a doctor's endorsement. In fact, it could be playing a part in delaying his return to competition because a doctor won't clear him. He would have to symptom free to get signed off, and if he's not...well, there yo have it. He wouldn't be fighting.