Is the integrity of boxing being ripped apart by baseless accusations?

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  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    All you guys only came with this after 2010, before that everything was hard worked accomplishes now all of a sudden everyone is on dope,. Even if testing should be improved its not fair to point fingers to guys that never failed a drug test in their life.
     
  2. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    OP is on roids. His previous posts had many more typos.
     
  3. Duck Dodgers

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    EPO is only detectable by urine. Previously the only known PED detectable in blood that did not have an equivalent urine test was HGH, and the test for it was as close to worthless as possible. Of the thousands of tests performed by WADA since the 2004 Athens Olympics when it was implemented, only ONE sample has turned up positive for HGH. The only logical conclusions to draw from this are: athletes aren't using HGH, or the blood test for HGH is ludicrously inaccurate.

    Regardless, there is now a urine test for HGH.
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont like to point fingers at anybody who hasnt failed a test but ill be suspicious

    i think a decent amount of guys do them in all pro sports
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I give them the benefit of the doubt, partially because I would really be devestated if guys like pacquiao,hopkins,morales,froch,marquez for example were really on drugs, it would destroy all the credibility I have for boxers im a fan of.
     
  6. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, Floyd has damaged boxing seond only to Tyson biting off Holyfield easrloab. His ***** ass got a real beatdown owed him. :deal 'Courtesy of that mouth. He bout to get fractured niccas.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i hear ya i mean im a fan of guys who i think could be juicing

    it wouldnt shock me of they got caught or admitted but id still be a fan
     
  8. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    if your clean.....there is nothing to worry about
     
  9. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd doin roids.. get it ..

    see what a turd he really is? no?

    that turd got a beat down comin knuckles up mouth enough

    floyd has ZERO character
     
  10. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Call them baseless if you want to but It really is not really that serious. Anytime someone does something that normal people are not supposed to do then possibility of Juice use gets into people's minds. The logic is the same across the sports world (especially baseball). For one to say he does not understand why someone else is considering the possibility is just stupid. From there it lies in someone with enough clout to ask for test, actually asking. Just like it should be easy to understand the possibility that floyd may be scared. Sadly neither have did what the fans need to end the speculation on all sides. Pac can go ahead and really agree to full testing or Floyd can drop it. Either way neither camp has made the move that would prove anything who is scared or who is cheating or if they both want to fight. Personally I find that suspect on both sides like this is some side ways okie doke for more money next year. Prolly 100 dollar PPV with a 160+ mill split. Who knows because they both have been suspect. Team Pac with thier Agreeing to everything Lies when actually revealing up to such and such days, or Floyd for not speaking on the matters at all. Just suspect from both camps which keep the talk going on between the fans. Alot of possibilities for this and it has to happen or it's **** both of em for me.
     
  11. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    *****s give boxing fans a bad name.
     
  12. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They do test......If a fighter wants to take HIS OWN EXTRA tests based on his moral values, principles and integrity...more power to them.

    But seeing grown ass men making up excuses NOT to fight or using damaging accusations to FORCE anther man to do their testing is not only irresponsible it's counter productive.

    Jean could have tested if he really felt that strongly about the issue of stricter testing in boxing. He didn't have to have Bhop doing the tests for him to make that stance to prove he's about what stricter testing represents.

    And Floyd too......he should be the man setting the bar and leading by example. He says he's not retired... If he's not retired and if he's trying to clean up boxing then he should be undergoing Olympic style testing right now. He can afford it and it would go a LONG way in proving he wasn't just blowing smoke up everyone's ass when he claimed to love boxing and was concerned about the safety of his peers.
     
  13. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A boxer has a right to demand that both fighters take tests. He has the right to demand tests that go beyond the conventional tests. There's nothing at all wrong with that.

    Anything less is insane. It's saying that a boxer MUST take whatever PEDs aren't detected by the conventional tests. If there are PEDs out there giving guys advantages (and we know there are), then if a boxer don't want to take these drugs, he should be able to demand tests for them.

    Ultimately, the sanctioning bodies, or a boxing league, should handle it. But until that happens FMJ should demand the tests if he feels that otherwise he'll be at a disadvantage. The ones bringing bad publicity to the sport are those who would refuse to take such tests.

    Of course, if FMJ is just doing it to **** with Pac...that's one thing. But there's still no excuse for Pac to not take the tests--phobia about drawing blood coming from a boxer is absolutely hilarious.
     
  14. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    The problem is that you say "baseless" accusations, you have no idea whether the accusations are baseless or not...that is the problem.
     
  15. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    the fukk you on son?