Its not Floyds fault boxers are using the "PED" excuse, its Mannys

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  1. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Im not a ******* or a *****.

    However im amazed at how easily people brush of the PED issues as “no big deal”

    When you consider how sophisticated the athletic drug testing are, yet they still fail to catch cheaters. How can people dismiss PED use in boxing?

    Look what happened to baseball when they updated the testing, and cycling.

    People are blaming Floyd for fighters using the PED excuse when they lose, but it’s not Floyds fault, its Manny’s fault.

    If Manny had said yes to the testing in the first instance we wouldn’t have any of these problems now. Manny and his camp created this beast by making a series of contradictory statements, **** poor excuses and counter offers.

    Whether or not Floyd tried to wriggle out of the fight is irrelevant. There are plenty of valid reasons for a fight to fall through, but refusing to take a drug test is inexcusable. I don’t care what Manny has said since the initial negotiations either, whether he has agreed to a 14 day, 7 day or Zero cut off date. The fact of the matter is he declined to take a random drug test when it was first requested off him and now the sport is suffering.
     
  2. AFBlues

    AFBlues Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd Jr’s telling the sports world, he compares himself to the great civil rights leader Malcolm X and Dr Martin Luther King Jr by crusading for better drug testing. According to Nevada State Athletic Commission director Keith Kizer, he has yet to see Floyd Mayweather Jr attend a single open forum to discuss issues namely drug testing. Floyd loves to spend time in the casinos betting on sports. Then posting the pictures of his winning tickets for his fans. It appears civil rights leader inspired Dr Floyd "Martin Luther" Mayweather King Jr, the drug crusade is not his top priority.
    Floyd Jr. told Boxing fans in a Fighthype.com video, about two weeks ago, that he signed the contract (fight with Manny Pacquiao) and he was going to get a copy of the signed contract to show the public. Unfortunately, as the days and weeks go by, he's yet to provide a copy.
    I'm still waiting for this alleged copy. It can show that he's not "ducking" like his critics believe he is.
     
  3. TonyD407

    TonyD407 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Athletes have been getting around Drug Tests for Decades

    why is 2010/2011

    Any Different ????
     
  4. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its never your fault that youre stupid, its your parents for bringing you into this world.
     
  5. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sure, it's Pacquiao's fault that Mayweather called him a drug cheat. Must be Ortiz's fault Berto is calling him one too then. Gotta love the ***** logic, where up is down, black is white, left is right...and the truth is whatever they say it is
     
  6. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Ortiz said he is willing to take any test from any organization pre fight and post fight to prove he is clean. So we know that Ortiz will do OSDT if asked.
     
  7. greatone

    greatone Active Member Full Member

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    Ortiz is not in any way as established as pacquiao and therefore cannot afford to have any looming clouds of suspision over his unstable career. So of course he is gonna jump to clear anything that might tarnish his image. He has tasted the venom of disappointed fans.
     
  8. EgoyLover

    EgoyLover Guest

    You are an idiot. Worse, you are a *****, as ONLY a ***** would say those *****ic phrases and sentences underlined. :patsch
     
  9. GF of Boxing

    GF of Boxing New Member Full Member

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    How is it Manny's fault? Who is Floyd Mayweather anyway? Is he the commision of boxing? The problem with Floyd is he think he is boxing, bigger than boxing, and he said that boxing will die without him. So why would I give into somebody like that. Remember that Manny is and was the champion when both negotiations first started, but Floyd is going to demand a request that should be coming from the commision. Me personally I don't have a problem with a more thorough drug testting procedure, but it should come from the powers to be. Why has nobody accused floyd of cheating? He's undefeated and according to him no fighter is the same when he fights them. Floyd went up and won titles in 5 different weight classes. Also he use to get injections of xylocaine in his hands which is illegal in majority of the states except for Nevada. How convienient almost half of his fights are staged where? Vegas. These talks of Manny supposedly using PED's didn't take off until Manny surpassed his son and tied Oscar Dela Hoya record of titles won in different weight classes by knocking out Ricky Hatton. He embarrassed him because all through the pre-hype fight Floyd Sr. was talking so much trash on how Pacquiao was a mule and Hatton was a stallion. And how Pacquiao can't fight he's an amatuer and Freddie Roach is a garbage trainer etc. So to save face he threw that baseless accusation out there....Plus think about the many fighters (boxing and mma) have been caught with illegal substance in their system. So the boxing commision is doing something right. Granted you may have few that may slip through but the majority do get caught. For example how many people get caught by the police for a traffic violation? Trust me there is alot. But they can't catch them all so what they do they set up speed traps, speed camera, red light cameras, and aircraft patrol to catch them. So as long as the commision keeps up with the time then just leave it alone. Now if I fighter intentionally takes something that will make him more stronger and aggressive I think he should be charge with aggravated battery. Becasue now this is not a sport any more you are really trying to hurt that opponent. Most may disagree but thats my opinion on it.
     
  10. labintador

    labintador Active Member Full Member

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    Pac also said the same thing but you idiots dismiss it as cheap talk because it's not on paper. :huh

    Bottom line: Pac agreed to the drug testing Floyd wanted. Floyd then went on vacation.
     
  11. PH|LLA

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    before Floyd started his slander against Pac, the PED testing was never talked about. Even when Judah asked Mosley to undergo additionnal tests and Golden Boy refused, noone gave a ****. When RJJ got caught for banned substances, noone gave a ****. When Toney got caught on roids, noone gave a ****. When Holyfield was found to be on PEDS, noone gave a ****.


    When some dickhead accused Manny Pacquiao of being on PEDS, it became the #1 topic in boxing for 2 years straight.

    Can you blame Pacquiao? Maybe yes. If he was not fighter of the decade, p4p king, and the best fighter of his era, people would just brush those baseless accusations off and move on to the next topic.
     
  12. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jesus how can people still talk about this? Doesn't it bore the tits off you?
     
  13. Boxing Fanatic

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    no doubt, if manny would of taken the test from the beginning, this shitw wouldnt be happening. suspicions are built based on his reluctance to take the test, just like hopkins. TAKE THE TEST!
     
  14. NotAnMMAfan

    NotAnMMAfan Guest

    You have 9 replies in your thread which only means one thing.... your thread is a CRAP which is synonymous to TROLLING :good
     
  15. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep.Kinda like Manny not taking a 25 M drug test when he's never come close to making that kind of $$$$ before. That's fantasy too, huh?