where does Ortiz rank on your pound for pound list?

18 of the 29 voters in the poll have him 11-20.

Why are you all over my nuts you creepy ***git?

 

Berto slept in that fight. All credit due to Ortiz, but the best of Berto is higher than Ortiz on that list, and a rematch and rubber match would prove it.

I got Ortiz down around 30-35.

I have 4 HW's higher than Ortiz.

 

You people are ****ing ******ed.

He wouldn't even be top 30, if the p4p list went that far down.

 

Throw down your 30 that you have ahead of Ortiz.

thanks

 

147 Clottey and Margarito beat Ortiz. Mosley v Ortiz at 147 would also be a 50/50

 

This.

 

you're right, they just suddenly forgot this

-quit against maidana
-draw with bum peterson
-cant even stop a grandpa quitter nate
-close win against hypejob berto
-beside a win from berto who else this quiter beat???:rofl:rofl:rofl

i think they're just trying to hype this quitter so after floyd make him quit again, it wont sound like he's cherry picking:rofl

 

In no particular order

Hopkins
Ward
Wlad
Martinez
Williams
Pac
Floyd
Mosley
Donaire
Gamboa
Marquez
Brabley
Poon
Khan
Segura
Froch
Cotto
Adamek
Bute
Mares
Dawson
Vitali
Haye
Lopez

**** I'm tired of listing names is that 30?

 

If Berto slept in the fight what makes you believe he will wake up for the rematch?

 

For those who voted top 20, would you rank Ortiz ahead of these guys? Simply because of a win over Berto?

Manny Pacquiao
Sergio Martinez
Nonito Donaire
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Miguel Cotto
Andre Ward
Timothy Bradley
Bernard Hopkins
Carl Froch
Lucian Bute
Giovani Segura
David Haye
Jean Pascal
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Chris John
Amir Khan
Yuriokis Gamboa
Chad Dawson
Tomasz Adamek
Fernando Montiel

 

No but some of those names are laugh worthy.

Anyways, I get your point. Ortiz sucks, Floyd's a cherrypicker, etc.

 

Which ones are laugh worthy?

And yes, Floyd is a cherrypicker. The only fight that should be going on is Pac-Mayweather, but Floyd doesn't want that so we've got this mismatch.

 

Mosley? hahahahaha

Anyway, I don't care enough to argue with you so i'll just let you have it.

What is Floyd supposed to do when Arum won't even talk to GBP/Haymon and Pac has his fights confirmed before his previous ones even take place?

Just try to look at things without bias.

 

15-20

 

Look, I don't want to rehash the whole thing, but Floyd's been pegged in the minds of anyone with two brain cells to rub together ever since he threw out roid testing as a obvious stumbling block meant to stifle negotiations.