Richard Schafer confirms USADA drug testing for FMJ v Ortiz

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  1. Box Box Box

    Box Box Box Active Member Full Member

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    ortiz doesnt have leverage on negotiation. he'll do whatever floyd insists.

    am not against osdt, but it has to framed well and implemented by nsac for consistency.

    unregulated osdt is bogus and can be cheated, just like floyd vs mosley where it stopped 18 days before the fight...who knows if its been the agreement or not? money talks.
     
  2. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :adminWOW....RE:yikes:****off:hand:naughty:fy:ahhhh :finger:banAND :smooch.
    CAn somebody REALLY ban this fu***r? Then again, a clown IS a clown!!
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this. and we all know that USADA has to be on GBP's payroll to conduct these test. they could have actually told the participants that they would cut the testing 18 days beforehand to reduce the risk of ****ing-up the event.

    if ever they should conduct this, it has to be regulated by a comission and not paid through by a promoter for posterity.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    if he does stop blood testing, then people would think that he is not really out to clean the sport but has only requested it to taunt pac after his PEDs accusations. as if it is not obvious yet, he has to continue doing it for the rest of his remaining fights.
     
  5. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're right in which Floyd is not really out to clean the sport, is just pacquiao seems WAY TOO OBVIOus... ;)
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    we all know that. floyd has just been saying those "cleaning the sport" line to avoid being accused of being terrified to fight pacquiao after that ass-whopping he laid on hatton and cotto.
     
  7. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IF this is true, then floyd will **** on pac on some many levels, i mean

    ortiz coming off his best win > mosley and marquez above 135, everyone knows this

    if mayweather looks incredible then it will destroy the notion of osdt affecting in ring performance

    on top of that, Ortiz will Immediately prove that he is clean since Berto started to talk ****

    And if Pac struggles once again versus Marquez at 147, oh boy! i will leave it there
     
  8. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes.

    Floyd doesn't dictate terms to Manny.


    He can to the lessers who itch for the big payday. They would wear lace panties to the weigh-in for that kind of dough.

    Manny is the p4p #1 and doesn't take directions from his lessere.


    If Floyd wants the fight (and he clearly has no appetite whatsoever for it), he must fight according to the usual rules and protocols.

    It's pretty simple really.

    Challenger can't dictate terms to the champ.
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So basically you're saying that Pac's ego is the reason he turned down the request. That's strange considering Pac is such a humble man who fights for the fans.

    Great, then after his next fight, Pac should call out Mayweather and state that he will undergo full OSDT. Considering that Mayweather doesn't want to fight him and is only using the testing as an out, Mayweather will make some other excuse and Pac comes out smelling like Roses. Hell, even if Mayweather accepts, he's apparently scared to death of Manny. I don't see how Manny would have trouble dispatching a guy who is scared to death of him. In that case, Manny receives a fat check, the adoration of the entire boxing world, and big boast to his legacy. I don't see the downside.
     
  10. Houseof7GB

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    Vic Conte says much of peds is useful particularly months before a fight, especially during recuperation and all fighters, especially those taking protracted time off for whatever reason with the intent of coming back should be tested year round...Floyd is ready to cycle off peds...can always test his hair for past ped usage... especially past few months when he was raging against everybody...oh, wait, he shaves off his hair, arm pits and all...
     
  11. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Reg, you can read what I'm saying. It's crystal clear.

    I'm saying that Floyd does NOT dictate terms to Manny.

    Manny at this point has surpassed Floyd as the biggest star in the sport.


    The entire drug testing question is a red herring.

    Floyd fears Pac

    That is no longer a controversial statement as everyone knows it.


    Humility has nothing to do with the issue. The request (demand) is intrinsically demeaning and the fact that others will lick Floyd's butt-crack to secure the big payday is completely irrelevant.

    If Floyd wants the fight (extremely doubtful), he will have to adhere to the usual drug testing protocols of the sport.

    Simple as that.
     
  12. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Not necessarily. Floyd is a very efficient boxer and doesn't waste alot of energy. Losing red blood cells will affect a high energy, high punch output kind of fighter like Pac and Ortiz, not so much fighters like Floyd or Hopkins.

    Victor Ortiz is a better measurement of how OSDT may affect stamina. He was high action against Berto. We'll see how Ortiz fares this time with less red blood cells in his system. :hey
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not arguing this, you're right. Floyd is scared and is using the testing as an excuse. However, Manny fights for the fans. Why not just accept the drug testing? Since Mayweather is really just scared of Pac and is using the testing as an out, he still won't accept the challenge. Pac comes out looking like a million dollars. And again, if Maywether accepts, it doesn't matter. Mayweather is scared to death of Manny. Manny should be able to take him out no problem. This is a win/win for Manny. He's a humble guy who fights for the fans. Why would he let his ego get in the way here when he's all about the fans, and when he's in a win/win situation?
     
  14. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok, i hope that victor comes out with guns blazing because when you fight the top p4p fighters, you have to take risk if you want to win, Mosley actually tried to outbox mayweather lol, thats so foolish, he has to fight without overthinking. maybe victor will show you that it doesn't make a difference. we will see
     
  15. Real_Truth

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    Why does this surprise anyone?! I mean if Floyd didn't do this then people will realize he's only using this bull**** to duck Pac....the truth in other words.