Why do so many people on ESB think Calzaghe is P4P #1 or #2?

Enough of that

Tell us about this British soccerball team

 

He has won all three titles but never had them at the same time which is a bit rubbish. He also waited way too long to win those titles but fighting Hopkins is a great start and if he can win that fight and beat another decent LHW (Woods or Dawson) you could make an argument for #2 P4P.

 

Well ATG is often measured in weight classes. People rank hopkins top 5 middleweight, They rank Pernell and Duran as top lightweights. That being said, throughout history can you name 5 super middleweights taht you wold rank above Joe? can you name 3?

 

How about 1?

RJJ maybe, but you wouldn't exactly call him a SMW. None of this best work was done there

 

Even though none of their best work was done there I would rank James Toney and RJJ above Calzage at 168 simply becase I would favor them above him in a head to head match up. If you were basing it on accomplishments at the weight I would not object to someone having Joe as their number one.

 

As far as I know, they couldnt qualify for some tournament in Europe where even a B-level-team usually should qualify....

 

i have him at #5

 

This was the British soccerball team right?

Their d-fence is horrible. It was Joe Terry's fault, dude he sucks

Oh well, theres always next time

Go team!

 

Joe C has made a TON of defenses....but one thing that hurts that run unlike w/ Hopkins, is Sven Ottke was making the same # of defenses almost at THE SAME TIME. Having two guys making so many title defenses in the same division isn't the same as ONE guy dominating a division.

 

Hell, they will. Usually after after a dale comes a peak. But I am not sure if Capello is the right man. He speaks no English.

 

Calzaghe's records are impressive but too bad he has not PROVEN himself outside UK. Like HATTON's records were impressive but when he fought in the U.S. too bad he lost. I would have loved it if he won.

Sorry guys for my ignorance. I know Valera wish list is to be able to fight in the US so he could prove his 22-0 is no fluke so he could fight the best in his division. I really have NO IDEA why Calzaghe NEVER fought in the U.S?
- ONLY REAL (the truth) answers pls?!

 

Why would he?

He's been the best in this division for 10 years

You don't see Floyd Mayweather coming to Manchester, and rightly so

 

Who has there been in his division worth flying over here for? He has fought the best in his division it he just fought them at home. What's the big deal about that? I guess floyd is **** because he never fought outside of the US.

 

The reason why JC never fought outside UK is, that the money in the Supermiddleweight is only in the UK and Germany. Nowhere else. Not in Denmark, not in Australia and esp. not in the US. He did not have to box outside, the same with Ottke not fighting out of Germany.

 

BEcause he fought alot of eurobums and a bunch of low level American fighters like Lacy and friggin contender lol Manfredo.

He hasnt proven himself yet. He has skills, but he slaps, an those slaps wont hurt a top flight boxer in middle or lightheavy. I have Pavlik knocking his ass out, he might be able to outsmart Taylor. But the more I look at Hopkins the more Calzaghe should be ****ing worried.

Top 5 p4p definitely. Top 3? Hell no, not even close. That goes to fighters who fight in tougher divisions and multiple weight classes.