Calzaghe always beats Hopkins at any stage of their careers and here is the evidence

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  1. Kittikasem

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  2. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Any fight between Calzaghe and Hopkins is gonna be close and could go either way.
    But if I took a leap of faith and presumed Calzaghe would always win....Hopkins is still gonna much be higher on an ATG list
     
  3. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Did you even read the post you are disagreeing with?

    The original poster posts evidence, you post opinion. There is a big difference.
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Nope. Hopkins certainly wasn't prime when he ought calzaghe, for starters.

    And considering how close that fight was I would give Hopkins a huge edge. Prime B-hop decisively beats calzaghe.
     
  5. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The thought that because an older version of a fighter fought close with a fighter, he automatically beats when he was younger really doesnt fly. Thats a bad way to look at things, especially in the case of Hopkins who really hasnt changed his level of opposition and still performs somewhat the same. I think Calzahge would always be competitive with Hopkins because of his handspeed and footwork.
     
  6. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    maybe you're right but joe and frank ****** were going to make sure we never knew how joe would do vs great fighters in their prime. i think ****** knew he didn't have the goods after the reid struggle and joe looking like crap vs thornberry.
     
  7. g.dog

    g.dog Active Member Full Member

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    No Calazaghe beats the version that schooled Tito !
     
  8. Kittikasem

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    :lol: What sort of moron are you? Really?! You clearly have no idea what the word "evidence" means. How can someone produce "evidence" for something which never happened??! Of course he is only posting his opinions you imbecile.


    FFS... :patsch
     
  9. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal Based upon information you are correct....

    Based upon avatar's grinder may have a point~
     
  10. Kittikasem

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    Those asscheeks would defeat Grinder in a general knowledge pub quiz, I'd bet money on that.
     
  11. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was once in a barber shop and there was this magazine there (cant remember what magazine, this was about 5-6 years ago) and there was an article on Calzaghe, amongst other things, he stated he could beat Tyson within 5 rounds and he could knockout 5 men at the same time (Because Hatton said he could beat 4 and im bigger than him).


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACgTJhEdj5M[/ame]
     
  12. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins was very close to prime v's Calzaghe, to go back in time and take ex amount of years off Hopkins and a take ex amount of years off Calzaghe only means that Calzaghe wins more easily.
     
  13. Kittikasem

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    Hopkins's prime was 1996-2002.

    Calzaghe's prime was 2003-2007.

    They fought in 2008.

    Even an esteemed Professor such as yourself should be able to do the math here.
     
  14. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins totally wasted his career then ?, defending his IBF titles time and time again against bums, William Bo James, Andrew Council etc amongst others, Hopkins best win, in fact only win of note in that period was against a shop worn career welterwight that had only previously had one fight at middleweight and only had one more fight before retiring for the first time in Trinidad.

    According to you as well as other Hopkins fans, Hopkins best wins came at the very time he fought Calzaghe, he beat Tarver and Wright before Calzaghe, and you name beating Tarver as a great win for Hopkins, then the Calzaghe fight itself, you think it was Hopkins greatest ever fight apart from the fight against little guy Trinidad, and then straight after the Calzaghe fight you name Pavlik as one of Hopkins greatest wins.
    So Hopkins wasted his best years fighting bums for a trinket belt then ?.

    You claim Calzaghe's best years included the years he beat Lacy and Kessler, but he had badly damaged hands at that stage, damaged in only his third defence of his world title, the period between winning the British title up to winning a version of the world title against Eubank and defending it the first couple of times may have been Calzaghe's prime, his physical prime for certain.

    In a nutshell you claim that Hopkins best years came years before he had nearly every one of his best wins, yet for Calzaghe you claim his best years were when he had the big fights as an old fighter.
    Calzaghe was not just ageing from the middle of his career onwards, he had a bona fide injury to his hands as well.

    If the supermiddlewight champ that was Calzaghe with good hands had fought the middleweight champ that was Hopkins, Calzaghe would have slaughter Hopkins, according to boxrec Hopkins is two inches taller and has a two inch longer reach than Calzaghe, so for Hopkins to have spent most of his career at middlweight and Calzaghe at supermiddle meant Hopkins was probably very big at middleweight and considering his big fights in his middleweight career was against blown up lightweights and welterweights Hopkins had it easy, so considering Hopkins was used to it easy Hopkins would not have stood much chance against Calzaghe as Calzaghe for the most part was fighting supermiddleweights with Calzaghe's best wins coming against career supermiddlweights who were unbeaten at the time in Lacy and Kessler, although Calzaghe and Hopkins were a similar size, Calzaghe was fighting bigger stronger men, Hopkins was fighting smaller weaker men.


    So there you have it Calzaghe beats Hopkins at any stage of their active careers, Calzaghe with goods hands beats Hopkins and as was proved even a Calzaghe with brittle hands beats Hopkins.
    Whatever way you look at it Calzaghe would always beat Hopkins.
     
  15. Kittikasem

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    "Read it and weep":

    :good