Wlad vs haye: For which guy is it more of an step up?

You've pretty much covered all the bases with this one...

 

Based on experience alone the bigger step up is Wlad, Haye is stepping up a very large amount with a guy like this. Some people may not like Wlads style but it is effective, I suppose.

But as for the points you make, we will just have to wait and see. Good Luck to both of them!

 

Haye is definitely out of his class here. Wlad has fought Castillo, Brock, and Byrd2, and Chambers who all fight with similar styles/size as Haye.

Haye did fight Valuev, but ran from the man the entire fight, and Valuev only threw like 20 punches per round or something. Not to mention (no offense at all to Valuev), but Valuev doesn't anything that Wlad has. Nothing except maybe a better chin.

Haye is going to be beaten badly if he shows up for their fight.

 

Wlad will adjust to Haye a lot easier than vice versa, in my opinion.

Wlad stops Haye 7-9. That's the (first) bet I made anyway.

 

It will all come out in the wash.

 

Haye is stepping up about 5 levels, Wlads stepping up maybe 3.

 

Talent wise, Wlad is a huge step up for Haye. Whilst his resent opponents have been big, they have been nowhere near in comparison to Wlad in terms of talent. Guys like Valuev and Harrison show that being big simply isn't enough at the top level and when Haye steps into the ring, he won't just be fighting someone who is bigger than him, he'll be fighting someone better than the big guys he's fought and even better than Haye himself is. Wlad is excellent technically and he has an efficient style to match his tremendous physical attributes, especially his power. It's rare to see a big guy punch as hard as his weight suggests but Wlad is certainly one of those very few big men with a knockout punch.

Physically, however, I think Haye is a huge step up for Wlad. It's been 8 years since Wlad fought a dynamic puncher like Haye and when he did fight him, the fight lasted two rounds. This is the first time since then that Wlad has faced any combination of speed and power and I think Haye both the fastest fighter Wlad has fought and also the hardest hitting. Whilst guys like Peter hit hard, they don't have the technique or speed to land those bombs. Whilst Chambers may have been fairly fast, he has nothing on Haye. Even if Haye didn't have speed, he'd be a formidable opponent for Wlad and even if he didn't have power, his speed would cause issues. The fact he has both means Wlad should be concerned about what Haye brings physically. Aside from his fists, Haye also has fast feet and that's something else Wlad has never seen. Agility wise, nobody on Wlad's record has had agility like Haye.

Physically, both men are incredibly good. Haye has hand speed, foot movement, upper body agility and reflexes. Wlad has physical strength, reach and height. The only thing they both lack is a chin and the one thing they both do have is a punch, which is what makes this so intriguing.



Both men are going to face their best opponent to date when they step into the ring. Personally, I think Wlad should win but he will have to do something different in order to make it happen. I think Haye will come into the fight with the better gameplan and that could give him the win.

 

Wlad has already fought a "#3 rated WBA champion" before in Chagaev...

Haye has fought: Barrett, Valuev, Ruiz, and Harrison...

Wlad is not stepping up from his resume of top 10 contenders, but Haye is stepping up from his resume of, well, I listed 'em above, you judge.

 

Obviously Haye is the one stepping up.
Klitschko is the top dog he IS the pinnacle.

 

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:good Sweet Avi.

 

Much bigger step up for Haye.

 

haye, of course

 

was thinking the same thing mate