Degale/Groves in comparison to Benn/Watson

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  1. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    If you trust your own bias you'd decided to score it to DeGale before the fight even started. To have DeGale winning that fight is just ridiculous. He was bamboozled throughout and barely landed when he threw his pitty-pat arm shots. The only damage he did was with the head. Fact.

    The best DeGale could have got was a draw. And he didn't deserve that.

    Second, it was obvious as early as his third fight that he needed a new trainer. His jab, footwork and punch selection are appalling. He likes to admire his work too much and he has no ring IQ at all. He could win amateur because his fast hands allowed him to peck his way to a win, but that's not the pro game.

    Frank may get him one now, but I think DeGale's so arrogant that he'll struggle to let anyone be the boss. And considering that a simple jab-step like what Groves use was so insurmountable, I'd say his limitations are clear.

    And dude, I feel free to laugh at your silly opinion now.
     
  2. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    We'll see.

    But if you think DeGale has no ring IQ you really don't understand boxing.
     
  3. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A comparison...:think

    I ran a thread sometime ago on here called Prime Steak v Corned Beef, to compare Degale and Groves to Benn and Eubank is exactly that, Degale and Groves don't even get near them...:yep
     
  4. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    :deal

    The trashtalk was atrocious and childish compared to Benn and Eubanks beef which was funny yet enthralling. The sheer hatred Benn had for Eubank and the way Chris somehow played this calm and withdrawn man made for one of most unique feuds in boxing.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    For an amateur star who is a 3 year pro, DeGale looked awful against Groves. Clueless.
     
  6. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :yep

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CO-jsOiJfxs[/ame]

    Some cracking lines in there.

    "Lets have some parliamentary procedure here, alright?"
     
  7. northbakbren

    northbakbren Member Full Member

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    Its so early in groves's career you just cant tell how far he will come on. You really cant compare. Although a big benn fan, groves is far more professional outside of the ring, and see him actually having a longer career than benn. Will it be as successful? Only time will tell, hope so.
     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Benn had a pretty long top flight career mate....
     
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  10. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Degale has a lot to deliver now, he needs to get out of England, ditch the backslappers and knuckle down to business and serve it up...:deal

    Eubank was right, when they turnover as millionaires it takes away that raw hunger that is in every other fighter that has to put his foot on every rung on the ladder...:yep

    At the moment he is all gong and no dinner...:oops:
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Never hurt Leonard or Oscar mate.....;)

    (I do agree though!!)
     
  12. WalletInspector

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    "It's hard to get out of bed to go for a run at 5 o'clock in the morning when you're wearing silk pyjamas." :deal


    Hard, not impossible Gaz. ;)
     
  13. GazOC

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    Marvin Hagler.:good

    (Wasn't it "silk sheets"?)
     
  14. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Yeah, I don't understand boxing. Great response. When has DeGale showed any ring IQ? Amateur fights were short distance, he could flash, pot-shot and flurry to win. He couldn't make a simple adjustment to Groves stepping back and to the side. Pathetic, really.
     
  15. Vincenzo

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    Personally I don't think Groves or DeGale are in Benn's, Eubank's or Watson's class, certainly not yet.

    But I can't remember how good those guys were after 10-12 fights, so it's hard to compare. I doubt they'll reach those heights though and I reckon all three would beat Groves and DeGale. So might Slugger O'Toole...