Im guessin we all wanted Khan v Bradley

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  1. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Apart from those stupid wankers that are calling for a Prescott rematch.

    But is the Judah fight actually a tougher night for Khan?

    And whod win between Judah and Bradley? I dont think i could confidently call that fight.

    I like Bradley but hes small and a soft puncher, perfect for Khan really. Judah poses alot more problems for Khan than Bradley ever would.

    Just what i reckon.
     
  2. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree Judah is more dangerous for Khan
     
  3. Bazt3k

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    yer i have judah as a more dangerous opponent for khan however he is past hes prime so who knows how the fight could play out

    i think amirs chin is alot better then most people give credit but if judah lands a flush uppercut it could really cause huge issues for him and we could see a repeat of maidana khan r10
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Judah has a better punch than Bradley, fine. No doubt. But he's not an elite fighter anymore and Bradley is. Let's keep in mind it's been years since Judah was stopped in two rounds against Tszyu. It's been years since HIS ONLY TOP NOTCH VICTORY over Spinks. Its been years since he let CARLOS BALDOMIR defeat him. It's been years since he gave a tough fight where he lost his cool and eventually got schooled against FMJ. It's been years since he went life and death with Cotto and was broken down and stopped. Hell, it's been three years since he had a top name opponent and that was Clottey...who he of course lost to, like he usually does against the top names of his division. Against former, future and current world champions, Zab Judah has a record of 5-6. A losing record against titlist level opponents. He is an old 33 after his 49 pro fights and simply put Bradley is the better man at this stage of their careers and ultimately may prove to be the better man at any stage. Power is about it. A more dangerous punch, but not a more dangerous fight. The ring-ranked p4p number six and ring-ranked light welterweight number one is the more difficult fight, I'd say.
     
  5. Think

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    Yeah, Judah is a tougher fight in my opinion. Southpaw, posses great speed and good power, enough power to stop Khan too, especially when combined with the speed. As a big Khan fan I am a little nervous for this fight but I am sure he will do the job.

    I used to like Bradley but I just think he is a **** now, I don't normally wish beatings on boxers but I seriously hope Khan ****s him up one day, I mean ducking the biggest fight of your life to then release an interview saying "I let you escape". The guy is a ****ing idiot.
     
  6. Think

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    Very good break-down, thank you for that. It sort of lessens Judah as an opponent reading that. But as for Khan, due to his suspect chin, anybody that is quick and powerful, will always makes his fans nervous.

    As I said above in my other post, I dislike Bradley as this stage but there is no doubting his determination in the ring, but I believe he is just too small for Khan. Judah is small too, at least he contains enough "pop" to presumably stop Khan in his tracks.
     
  7. purephase

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    Khan's utter cluelessness at fighting on the inside might be as much of a liability as his chin at this weight class, and Bradley's proven to be quite effective at getting there without having to receive much punishment. Judah might be the bigger KO threat, but he's shown me nothing to regard him as a bigger overall challenge than Bradley.
     
  8. Think

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    You mean he throws his head forward and headbutts his opponents while diving forward like a ****** seal?

    And Khan has showed signs of improving his inside game, like getting out and away. Don't expect the fight to be on the inside for much of the time.
     
  9. Gneus7

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    IMO Bradley is made for Khan. He's smaller, slower & doesn't hit as hard. I see no way of him beating Khan. Judah on the other hand has the speed, power & cunning to KO Khan. Bradley probably beats Judah but styles make fights.
     
  10. purephase

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    Which fights are you referring to for signs of these improvements? Certainly not the Maidana fight, where Maidana was able to land loads of uppercuts all night long and Khan's supposedly improved in-and-out movement left him gassed for the last 3 rounds. And I don't see how the McCloskey fight shows any evidence for this idea either; McCloskey was content trying to evade shots in the center of the ring with the hope that Khan would gas out. I simply don't see Khan as effective enough to keep a fight on the outside for a very long time, and Bradley would not have to eat anywhere near the punishment of Maidana to get in.
     
  11. Think

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    Gassed out?

    Khan was still popping him with random combos until the very last bell, in the final seconds of the final round it looked like it was Maidana ready to go. Khan took a beating in the 10th round, he should of just gone down, but he didn't... Of course he had no energy, anybody in the world that would of gone through that sort of fight would of been feeling it! Jesus christ!

    And no, McCloskeys gameplan to do **** all and taunt for half of the fight was pointless, there would of been no way to come back from such a lopsided lead.

    As for the inside, Khan used to just stand there and get hit, but he now clinches and spoils the work as the other guy gets in-close, that as simple as it may sound is an improvement.

    Bradley is too weak and too small. End of.

    Paulie was supposed to out-box him.
    Maidana was supposed to KO him.
    Bradley is supposed to beat him up on the inside.

    Lets just wait and see what happens.
     
  12. purephase

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    Right but the shot Maidana landed was partly a product of Khan slowing down and becoming sloppier with his footwork. His quick feet might allow him to avoid pressure a lot of the time, but his movement is also inefficient in my opinion.

    Maybe, maybe not. Wouldn't you say though that Khan going back to Ariza immediately after the fight at least partly indicates that McCloskey was correct in planning on Khan slowing down late?

    I simply don't see these improved spoiling tactics. I saw a lot of standing and getting hit still against Maidana, and to the extent that they were broken up, this struck me as being a product at least in part of Cortez's allergy to anyone fighting inside. Khan's holding often left one of Maidana's hands free, and in many cases the two would not have been broken up with a different ref. This is not a revisionist "Khan would not have won with another ref" point, but I simply wasn't impressed with his defense under pressure.

    I like how the last sentence in the passage here directly contradicts the first one. Also, who in the world thought Paulie would beat Khan?
     
  13. v2k987

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    Bradley would punish Judah over 12 rounds... would be a beat down
     
  14. Think

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    There were loads of people saying it, I don't know if you've noticed but Khan gets a lot of hate and right before the fight there were loads of posters saying Khan was going to get outboxed and exposed.

    And I agree with your point, that Khan slipped up and that was the reason he got landed on, interestingly, just as that happened, Jim Watt, a SkySports commentator said that those were the type of shots that Khan had to watch out for, and as soon as he said it, that is what happened.

    And yeah, Khan's holding is just a grab, and he holds in the wrong place, like on the back of the neck so Maidana just kept swinging, I don't know why he hasn't developed any real inside game but I imagine they will work on it and improve it.

    And my last statement wasn't contradicting anything, I said it meaning "People say this and that, but lets see what happens".

    If Bradley was just as confident as you about winning this fight, he wouldn't of ducked to protect his future investments.
     
  15. BoxingKangaroo

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    im gonna go out on a limb and say judah ko's khan.....early. bradley seems shorter than khan, i believe khan would keep him on the outside comfortably and ground out a points win. but with judah i believe he has the speed, in and out movement and the uppercut to really trouble young khan. and the uppercut is the money punch for judah in this fight.