Haye's game plan versus Wlad: This is what I think . . .

You might be onto something.
Haye says in his interview during press training day: "If he grabs me I gots something up my sleeve to surprise him".
I hope him and Booth aren't thinking something illegal.

 

Pretty good - I´d say there will also be rhythm changes in Hayes strategy and most importantly body shots when Wlad comes forward after his jab and tries to clinch. What´s 100% sure is that he needs to negate Wlad´s jab.

All and all - Haye´s a clear underdog and he´s up against a huge task if he plans to win this on points (IMO) - he needs to take risks.

 

Good post shaunster, I agree with all your points. Haye could go for a "betting the farm on it" early ambush in the style of Sanders but him and Booth aren't that stupid.

I see Haye feinting and sidestepping a lot, every once in a while punching to Wlad's body in the early rounds from the outside, just to confuse him and for him to throw caution in the wind.

 

I've questioned this myself. Wlad coming out forcing that jab out with authority and letting a few straights go could work in his favor. Wlad could easily make Haye uncomfortable from the opening bell if he does force the action and pressures Haye into the ropes...

An aggressive Wlad IMO would be bad news for Haye.

 

But you see, that's the beauty of the ball beating. It's not predictable yet it can be highly effective. Lose a point here and there, but if it opens up the defense, then go for it. Either that, of Hays is planning on ducking down really, really, low to avoid Wlads jab and will try to come up under him with upper cuts. But beware the short left hooks from Wlad. Monte Barret and Shufford both learned the hard way that Wlad is an excellent inside fighter with those short hooks.

 

Excellent post Shaun.:thumbsup


My thoughts (bolded).

Haye has it all to do, but he can change the whole stylistic of this fight by shaking Wlad out of his comfort zone, either by disorganizing him, or hurting him.

I do think it a valid question to pose about what Wlad does if Haye offsets the jab, and whilst its plausible to suggest it might allow Haye to get closer, I guess its also plausible to suggest it might send the message to Wlad, that he needs to cut the ring off, so rather than holstering it, allowing Haye to get close to him, he might look to get closer to Haye, by cutting the exits off, then when he gets at his required distance, he might try to press Haye off the front foot, but still look to

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, which is something Wlad will have to do imo.

John Ruiz got blasted by Haye because he tried to walk in on a big puncher

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maintaining that safe distance behind the jab.

I believe when ever you apply pressure against a big puncher, you dont wanna dispense with the jab and get too close, you wanna maintain it to keep a safe distance, and work any openings off it.

ODLH was a very dangerous fighter up the middle if you backed him up and when straight at him, but Genaro Hernandez showed in spells, that if you press him, but do it from a (behind the jab) safe distance of the jab, that you could neutralize him somewhat, now I know DLH won that fight, but Hernandez definitely gave him issues in that sense, and when push comes to shove, whilst Hernandez was a good fighter, he probably wasn't on DLH's level.


Look at Naseem Hamed, how many fighters did he knock out who tried to bum rush him, or get too excitable cause they just landed on him?


I said earlier, if you watch Wlads fight with Castillo, I know he's far from David Haye, but I think it should how effective Wlad can be when asked to cut the ring down, so maybe there is something in that?

I think Wlads biggest dangers, might be that he gets disorganized when someone is aggressive, and puts their punches together, which Haye has the ability to do, its just whether he can get his feet into position to do that, without getting nailed himself.

Another thing, Haye has the power to get off first on Wlad, and there is a difference between concentrating, and dreaming. If Wlad stalks Haye, but falls asleep behind the wheel, he might find himself on the canvas.

 

I'd rather cut of my balls than watch that again :-(

 

How ridiculous he probably means uppercut.

I can see this going two ways Haye ko's wlad early to mid rounds or klit bores us all to death and gets a ud by landing several jabs the entire fight.

 

Haye has to pull a Valuev to win this match. Run all the time, keep away from the jab and launch unpredicatable attacks, but it is much easier said than done.

He threw 144 punches against Valuev, he won't be able to throw 800 agains Wlad.

Wlad is fast himself, he has to cut the ring and put pressure on Haye early.

 

I think Haye will stand in front and try to outbox Wladimir.

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No, seriously, of course the planning stage is very much like a chess match. Each side scouts the other to come up with what they perceive to be the opponents exploitable weakness. Each side also self-scouts in an attempt to determine what the other trainer might perceive as their fighter's weakness and creates a fight plan accordingly.

With all of that I'll still predict nothing tricky and both fighters will simply use what got them here. If we assume that the Haye camp believes that their fighter is the quicker footed athlete, then I predict the typical 'circle to his right to avoid walking into Wlad's right hand' and if he is quicker footed and can get a step or angle on Wlad, to throw the overhand right bomb.

But what do I know? This is only my opinion and I don't expect everyone to agree.