If Khan Beats Zab Judah Should He Be Number #1 140lber?

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  1. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I think it'll have more to do with Khan's flaws then anything Judah's got left, Flea. If he does indeed stop him.

    I just don't see why people keep believing and putting their hopes in Zab over and over again. Before the Mabuza fight this would've been considered as a tune up fight for Khan. Zab hasn't looked impressive to me for ages. He lost to Mathysse and the last named fighter he fought beat him up with single punches and made him quit.

    As i said though, it remains intriguing because of Khans obvious flaws and the fact that Zab is still a relatively fast sharpshooter.
     
  2. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kotelink( who would of beaten Alexander if his fight was anywhere bar Alexander backyard, also a close win over Maidana could of been a draw)

    Paulie( away from home States side debut at age of 23yrs in Paulie's backyard)

    Maidana( all wrong style for Khan, and a fight which many even on this Brit Forum said Khan would never take, Khan took his best shots and smiled at him in the 10th and never even took a knee when he took a real beating in the 10th. Maidana has a win over Victor Ortiz a fighter who now fighting Floyd Mayweather Jr Sept 17th)

    Pending Judah, and if Khan beats him I feels thats the best record at 140 therefore if Khan beats Judah for me is No.1 at 140.
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Slip, I don't rate Judah much at all, I'm well aware of his limitations and have never bought into him being all that good.

    I just think Khan is dodgy and amateurish.
     
  4. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    I don't understand this.

    Who did Bradley fight in his 20- fights? Tell me one name.

    BOTH Bradley and Khan started fighting top opposition at the exact same time in their records.

    Khan:

    Fight 20 - Marco Antonio Barrera
    Fight 21 - Andreas Kotelnik - World Title
    Fight 22 - Dmitriy Salita
    Fight 23 - Paulie Malingaggi
    Fight 24 - Marcos Maidana
    Fight 25 - Paul McCloskey
    Fight 26 - Zab Judah

    Bradley:

    Fight 20 - Donald Camerana
    Fight 21 - Miguel Vasquez
    Fight 22 - Junior Witter - World Title
    Fight 23 - Edner Cherry
    Fight 24 - Kendall Holt
    Fight 25 - Lamont Peterson
    Fight 26 - Luis Abregu
    Fight 27 - Devon Alexander

    Bradley edges it in toughness in them 20+ fights, so far, for sure, but you can't say Bradley had it hard and Khan had it easy because I don't see anyone on Bradley's resume prior to them 20+ fights that he's fought.

    If anything, I see Khan having the tougher one's (Gomez, Limond, Prescott [loss]).

    Bradley knows the offer which he got was great. His own Family, his Promoter and his Manager will say the same thing and don't know why he didn't take it, but yes, it's definitely down to HBO's ineptitude. If it wasn't for him being able to fight anyone for $1.2M, then we'd probably see Khan/Bradley right now.
     
  5. FrochFan7

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    I don't think you read that properly Laz.

    He said Khan was earning loads before he even fought Kotelnik and before he even got beat by Prescott. Nobody knew who Bradley was before he beat Witter and he had to get to the top the hard way whereas Khan was placed there by Frank ******.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    Domestic level here is not the same as the U.S.
     
  7. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also the rankings of last year of Alexander at No.2 just because he won a vacant title off a shot Witter and a win of Urango was hype and he since then been found out as another American hype job by Kotelnik and Bradley a fight which he quit like a girl.
     
  8. Lazarus

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    Ah I understand, my bad.

    Sorry Joe.
     
  9. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Yep, Khan does one of the most amateurish things in boxing by letting his hands move quicker then his feet, he's so uncordinated when he's throwing those mcflurries it's ridiculous, plus he has no chin to chest tuck and is stiff as a board up top.

    His speed overwhelms guys and stops him from getting countered, but once he meets someone who can stay calm under the gun and punch with him then he's getting knocked out. When Khan runs in with those flurries you can just see him getting check hooked, and Zab definitely has some of the tools to do it. Plus if Khan of the McCloskey fight turns up then he could be in serious trouble.

    For a fighter who moves so much, Khan's feet are awful. Whether it's moving in big circles or leaving his feet behind when he's punching in combinations.

    I'm just tired of them digging Zab up again and again.
     
  10. FrochFan7

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    Wait what? Who are you suggesting should've been number 2 then? A shot Malignaggi? A non-hype job like Salita or maybe McCloskey?
     
  11. FrochFan7

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    :think
     
  12. WalletInspector

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    Who's Joe? :huh
     
  13. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How was Paulie shot? At 29yrs old?

    Kotelnik forgot him?

    Did I say Khan should of been No.2? All I am saying Alexander ranking was hype IMO.
     
  14. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    change paulie to **** an now were talking
     
  15. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :hey

    Hope you have not forgot our little bet, time is ticking for you boy ;)