How long would it take (to train at boxing) and be able to defend yourself?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by kyzz, Jun 2, 2011.



  1. BladeJrs

    BladeJrs N/A Full Member

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    I'm not looking to start talking to you again...but you admit you insulted people, so I was pointing out to the other dude that saying 'this is why people hate queers' wasn't necessarily uncalled for.
     
  2. Amin

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    I didn't insinuate a thing, I flat out said it. As for that other country, it's called Palestine bro, read a ****ing book. Actually, we can add Syria to the list as well (the Golan), and Lebanon (Shebaa Farms).
     
  3. Amin

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    Yeah, but no point tarring all gay people with the same brush. People are people bro. I'm sure they'd be quite offended to be compared to this guy if they heard the bs this guy is spouting.
     
  4. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The point he made (in a rather blunt way) was that the actions of a very small number of people reflect poorly on the whole and give them a bad rep. I agree. People like the OP are the REASON there's folks running around trying to start **** with any gay person they can find. I mean hell, how many of us would have kicked his ass already if this was a face-to-face conversation?
     
  5. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, no, no. Most of us would have walked away to avoid a fight :nono
     
  6. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why avoid a fight you know you'll win? :yep
     
  8. MrSmall

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    I was wondering why this thread was so long, I didn't bother reading it, but damn, wtf is going on!
     
  9. Primate

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  10. Hypercube

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    If a black man insults you you call him a n1gga?

    Or you call him a *******?
     
  11. Hypercube

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    If Saudi Arabia executes people do you say Islam did it?

    Or do you study?
     
  12. Amin

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    On this note I have to disagree with you. Some people will be homophobes and try to start **** with any gay man they see regardless. Blaming it on a few people, like the OP, in a way justifies the homophobe's actions, and that's something I definitely disagree with. I was born in Egypt. So was the new head of Al Qaeda. I don't want people picking fights with me because some dude with the same skin tone and features as me is a total dick. The OP being a dick or not doesn't give anyone a free pass on being a bigot.

    For the record OP, people are giving you grief because you can't fight worth **** and yet end up in a lot of fights. Not a good combo. When they give you solid self defence advice, you tell them they don't know what theyr'e talking about. That said, if I was in the pizza place, I wouldn't have let that fight even happen, I have no patience for bigotry of any kind.
     
  13. kyzz

    kyzz Member Full Member

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    People are 'giving me grief' because of something called group polarization -- if you notice the people that did say I reacted correctly only posted once or twice, whereas the keyboard-warriors...different story.

    But Amin let me put you in a similar situation...are you or your family Muslim? For arguments sake let's assume they are....

    Suppose you're eating at a table with your mother and grandmother at a restaurant, now some bigoted thugs from across the room are bothered by two things; you guys speaking Arabic, and your mother & grandmother wearing hijabs. Now one of the thugs comes up to the table and tells you to "Get the **** out", you notice the two workers at the restaurant are doing nothing and the guy is two feet from your face (and a few feet from your family). What would YOU do??? Here's some advice you'd have been given here:

    Since some of these idiots have never left their parent's basement, they don't understand that calling the police doesn't mean the police arrive in 25 seconds. They also don't understand that trying to walk away may just result in being followed and hit from behind.

    So tell me Amin, would you consider the above "solid self-defense advice", or would you tell them they're all ****ing idiots? Because if you were to re-read this thread this is EXACTLY the kind of advice I've received. Obviously some people, like Primate, gave applicable advice...but I didn't insult him for that.
     
  14. kyzz

    kyzz Member Full Member

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    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA

    I have to give you credit bro, I honestly wish I had the same "I can kick anyone's ass" mentality like you do. I'd LOVE to see the look on your fat face after getting your ass kicked by a gay guy.

    My boxing instructor said something hilarious after we were discussing some self-defense concepts, he said "people with 'tough-guy' mentalities usually believe they can take on the world, until they get punched in the face :) "

    So true coach, so true...
     
  15. Amin

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    A few things. First off, I'm an atheist, but we can still stick to the above scenario. Secondly, with my mother and grandmother there, even if there was a 1% chance they would get hit accidentally, or whatever, I would have gotten the **** out. Their safety (well, just my mother in this case, both my grandmothers are dead, RIP) is infinitely more important to me than my pride. I don't need to show off in front of my mom. In the immortal words of Milton, my mom thinks I'm cool.

    That said, if it was just me, it would be a different story. First of all, you need to know how to deal with bullies. These guy in your example. He feels brave. He sees a visible minority, and thinks he can big himself up. He'll walk up, do his blustery bull****. If he sees any hesitation in his target, he'll continue with his bs. However, when he sees that the person he's picking on isn't a victim, he'll back down, real quick. I'm not a big guy, but I don't avert my gaze either. I'd stare right through until he either backed down or started throwing punches. Either way, he'd lose. If he's lucky, he'll back down.

    To summarize, with my family, or female friends, or anyone who can't really defend themselves, I'll swallow my pride and GTFO. If it's just me, different story.

    Nobody here is telling you to be a *****, they're telling you to think about the safety of your friends. Street fights are random, and often end quite badly for one side.