I think it was a terrible idea for Haye to **** Vlad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by boxer101, Jun 18, 2011.


  1. boxer101

    boxer101 Member Full Member

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    Every case is different, sometimes it helps to get a fighter upset and of his game but I think Vladimir has a great offensive arsenal plus reach to severely damage Haye. I got to give it to Haye though, that was an amazing way to promote the fight, I literally can't wait to see what happens now
     
  2. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Since when did jab hold jab hold become a 'great offensive arsenal' :lol::patsch

    Wlad is going to get his egg shell based mandible shattered :deal
     
  3. wlad1111

    wlad1111 Active Member Full Member

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    actually i think making wk angry helps Haye. Before I explain why lets look at few simple facts.
    1. There is no way Haye is getting a decision and that is not because they are fighting in Germany.
    2. Both have suspect chins.
    3. Both Punch rearlly hard.
    Hayes only two chances are to win by a knock out or getting WK injured Lewis style. Although Haye has an agressive style he does not come at his opponent like Tyson did he waits on the outside and always looks for opportunity to leap in with good powerful combo and hurt the guy. For him to have a lot of those opportunities the other guy has to make mistakes and angry guys make most mistakes. If Wlad fights very cautions that diminishes chances of Haye catching him so pissing off WK is a good idea in this case even though Haye might get knocked out early because of that.
     
  4. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    I heard it through the haye-vine.
     
  5. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    some gd points tho i see it the other way.a pissed off slugger does all wat u said..a pissed off fighter with wlads style dosnt..it just makes him train harder and focus more esp on fight night.not to lose to win and to inflict punishment.and wlad inflicts most punishment on his opponents when he fights behind the jab
     
  6. rjko23

    rjko23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    haye needs to get wlad angry so he opens up and leaves himself open. hayes banking on landing big shots early and the only way that will happen if wladimir is trying to knock haye out. two or three big hooks from haye will be enough to ko the big hard klit!
     
  7. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    It's a great idea to get Wlad angry IMO. Being in the same ring as an angry Wlad is not something to look forward to. But an angry boxer can be a reckless boxer. If you see red in the ring, you can neglect your gameplan, your defense, you can walk on to punches you wouldn't normally walk on to.

    This is Hayes best chance IMO.
     
  8. wlad1111

    wlad1111 Active Member Full Member

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    I am not saying it will work on wk since he can control himself in the ring pretty well but I think that is Hayes plan.
     
  9. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    :lol:

    A great offensive arsenal , the guy is a 1 - 2 fighter !!!!!

    Haye was being moderate and respectfull by his standards

    What the **** does " the way he talks , the way he walks " have to do with **** !!! , Wladimir waffles **** and Haye basically just makes fun of it
     
  10. One Bomb

    One Bomb mantis style Full Member

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    To be fair, that's only been the case since Manny Steward starting training him. Watch a couple of his earlier fights, he's a ****in beast. The fight against Ray Mercer is a good example.

    It's a shame the chin issues forced him to abandon that style, it was entertaining as ****.
     
  11. Boxing Fanatic

    Boxing Fanatic Loyal Member banned

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    wlad wont change his tune for anything in the world. he will do his usual jabfest followed by a right hand mixed it once in a while with a left hook
     
  12. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ino wat ur sayin mate.im just sayin its pretty stupid..as hopkins says u use certaain gameplans on certain fighters.hes got his one wrong...he wuda prob been better of doing wat hopkins did to oscar
     
  13. boxer101

    boxer101 Member Full Member

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    Like some one said earlier, wlad was an offensive machine pre-Sanders i am pretty sure he can still fight that way if he wanted too. it is clear that if wlad gets careless that opens up some counter opportunities for wlad but i think wlad has enough reach to throw bombs at haye without giving up his height advantage.