Valero vs Maidana wouldve been a great fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by fitzgeraldz, Jun 21, 2011.


  1. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I think Valero would of hammered Maidana into a corners retirement around 10 or 11

    Sidenote ; i fancy Guerrero to do a job on Maidana
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    emmanuel will call up his lawyers and file a lawsuit after Edwin V connects with a left to his liver that destroys it!
     
  3. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    This was confirmed today wasn't it?

    Maidana is going to compliment Guerrero's combination punching.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I think Floyd would've destroyed Valero because he would've slowed down the pace and made Valero think too much ... that would've made him tired and vulnerable... but I also think Valero goes out on his shield.

    The reason why I believe he would've been great is because he was fast, relentless, aggressive, and powerful. His skill set wasn't that bad, I just think he relied on his aggression more than anything else. He was strong in both hands and was great at attacking.

    He was a decorated amateur coming one fight short of making the olympics. He has skill he just need a more fine tuning. Any time you can overwhelm your opponents to the point where they crumble means you're good. I don't care who he's facing. He had 8 title fights and it doesn't matter if they were tomato cans someone would put up a fight on the championship level. Based on the tools he had, I only see a few fighters out now ... hanging with him ... I only see 1 maybe 2 outboxing him (Pacquiao & Mayweather) ... and those same fighters maybe stopping him but thats it.
     
  5. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I agree ... only if he avoids body punches ... he would cruise and I would like to see the winner fight Morales. I know that Guererro would have the advantage in speed against Morales but I think that Morales' accurracy is top notch.
     
  6. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    $ smothers Edwin V in the pocket like he did in the Ndou fight.

    Ali Fraizer may have been FOTC, but $ vs Edwin would have been Fight of the Millennium
     
  7. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Yes it was

    Maidana is a slow plodder , and by and large is a static target , Guerrero IMHO is going to school him

    Morales picked Maidana apart with virtually no legs !!! , it has to percieved that Guerrero is no longer a FW , more an averaged sized LWW , who has relatively good power with excellent combination punching , i dont see Maidana's march forward style outgunning or overwhelming Guerrero at all .

    I honestly think Guerrero is taking a comfortable UD here , and im going to say this , i think he's going to look better than Khan did doing it :deal
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mosquera was a world class fighter ... Just relatively unknown... Besides most great fighters have these type of fights on the way up and up being better afterwards

    Leonard- WIllie Rodriguez,Marcos Geraldo

    Delahoya- Dropped vs Valenzuela,Campanella tough fight with Molina but improved big time after this.

    Chavez - vs Adrian Arreola very close fight with solid but hardly elite contender. Chavez became top notch after this.

    Hearns - Harold Weston looked like he could pull an upset, but freak eye injury ended that.

    Pac- Fights at fly and after 1st fght with Morales

    Marquez- Improved after Norwood

    Holmes - better after Norton

    Tyson- After Tillis

    Meldrick Taylor after Draw with Howard Davis

    Salvador Sanchez after Beccera?

    Hopkins - aftrer Jones and draw with Mercardo

    Ali - Doug Jones, henry Ciooper

    Marciano - lastarza

    Foreman - Peralta

    Young Holy -After first Qawi fight

    Duran - after Dejesus

    Izzy - after 2nd Larios fight

    Tszyu - after hector Lopez and vince phillips

    Canizales - after loss to Paul gonzalez


    I coudl sit her all day naming great fighers that struggled or loss to lesser fighters.. Only to improve alot after.
     
  9. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    Anarci I agree to an extent with what you are saying, but after those fighters you listed experienced adversities, they went on to improve and hone their skills, aswell as stepping up their level of competition. In the years following the Mosquera fight, Valero didn't really do either of those 2 things. He became a bit more patient in his offense, but his style didn't really change much, he was still a very crude fighter, with noticeable fundamental flaws. He was more methodical like I said, but the Valero of the Mosquera fight was not too different at all to the Valero that fought later in his career. Plus he never substantially stepped up his level of competition. Who was the best fighter he fought after Mosquera? Demarco? That was 4 years later too. Most of the fighters you listed stepped it up much sooner, and improved at a much more steady rate. Valero never showed those traits.
     
  10. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    It would of been epic... maidana is a savage but Edwin Valero was the barbarian King.. he had too much speed and power for maidana.. EV would of ended that fight violently after a war!!
     
  11. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Hell yeah he would of... Did you see how he fought with that cut against de marco? He fought like it was normal... He just didnt give a ****!!
     
  12. Phanekim

    Phanekim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    too bad valero had to **** it up.
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Valero is really a waste of talent, he could have been a very good fighter and champion, instead he ended all that potential in a act of rage.
    Him vs pacquiao would have been fight of the year, had oscar not picked pac this fight would have happened for sure.
     
  14. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Would have been a great fight... I favour Valero in a war.

    Maidana is no joke though, and I think people are massively under-estimating him after his mediocre performance against Morales. If he comes in focused and well prepared (ala the Khan and Ortiz fights) I think he takes Guerrero.
     
  15. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Emmanuel, the great pretender would simply pretend he was not hurt like he did in the Margarito fight then proceed to demolish Valero! Hey, wait... it's a fantasy fight and we know that Pac doesn't win fantasy fights so It would be Valero by brutal KO in the early rounds!:lol::lol::lol: