How does Werdum weigh 245?

I cant say for SURE if Overeem has been taking roids but its certainly not a fact.

Overeem cut to make 205 when he fought at lightheavy back in 2007, so overeem put on probably more like 30-35 lbs of muscle since moving permanently to heavyweight in 2007 against Buentello(Strikeforce heavyweight title fight) he weighed 224 lb 11/16/2007 - 12/31/2009 against Fujita overeem weighed his heaviest at 260 (25 months and 36 pounds is this possible for a man 6'5" without steroids?)and then weighed 255 last Saturday where he dosnt have to make the cut (overeem's weight also has fluctuated up and down quite a bit since the fight with fujita)

By the way Overeem did not show good stamina against Werdum so cant act like the muscle mass has been completely a positive addition to his career, though he was never known for great stamina.

Until Overeem tests positive for steroids we cant say he is on the juice and WHICH PEOPLE CONSISTANLY USE TO DISCREDIT OVEREEM. Other fighters that actually have been caught using roids get less criticism than alistair.

 

It does matter. I really doubt Werdum uses steroids. Werdum submitted Overeem when he was clean. Alistair on steroids won, although in comepletely unimpressive fashion.

Overeems career was going no where until he started looking like the incredible hulk and that is a fact!

 

deal

 

Based on what exactly? Because Overeem has muscles? Really?

 

what? you always bang on about fighters using steds yet with overeem you defend him.

whoever thinks overeem never used before is really dumb, its common practise these days

 

he wouldnt beat cain because cain has amazing wrestling and would tko overeem on the ground. Jds has better hands than overeem and would destroy overeem in the stand up plus JDS has never been rocked. Dude you must be blind to not notice the difference you sound like a overeemtard get overeem's nuts out of your mouth before you make yourself look like an idiot.
http://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgu...ge=1&ndsp=49&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0&tx=104&ty=34

 

10 pounds of extra body fat. I heard he might of had a knee injury and had to change training practise.

 

Well .........

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9933027&highlight=Overeem#post9933027

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9933045&highlight=Overeem#post9933045

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9535355&highlight=Overeem#post9535355

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9691149&highlight=Overeem#post9691149

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9746904&highlight=Overeem#post9746904

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9645936&highlight=Overeem#post9645936

This one is my personal favourite!!!

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9646191&highlight=Overeem#post9646191

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9746890&highlight=Overeem#post9746890

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9752124&highlight=Overeem#post9752124

.http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9652978&highlight=Overeem#post9652978

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9806477&highlight=Overeem#post9806477

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9777674&highlight=Overeem#post9777674

This one is from the Champ V Champ thread where he's clearly picking Overeem

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9394091&highlight=Overeem#post9394091

Guess who Ai_edy picked as the greatest fighter on Earth in this thread

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9526278&highlight=Overeem#post9526278

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9655172&highlight=Overeem#post9655172

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9581661&highlight=Overeem#post958166

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9526377&highlight=Overeem#post9526377

Haha yeah bro agreed

 

Didn't take too long for him to jump off the bandwagon.

 

An experienced athlete whos been training for years can make some decent gains with just a gramme of test/week and dbol (maybe 10lbs of real LBM). Gaining 40+lbs of lean body mass late-ish in your career in a couple of years? He is a great responder and has good genetics to keep his bf low while gaining all that muscle, but probably needs more than simple test/dbol/tren...a couple of cycles of igf-1/ insulin likely. This is just general musing and not directed at anyone in particular.

 

Knowledge bomb successfully dropped.

 

yea but i only believe what i see and at that time i did believe overeem was the best fighter in the HW division but after his performance against werdum i clearly changed my mind.

 

That's cool fella I do it all the time. But calling someone a Overeemtard was kinda silly

 

yea k agreed.

 

Overeem is on steroids: end of. If anyone doubts that they are ****ing mental. To be able to gain that much muscle and keep it while having to do the amount of training and cardio that MMA guys have to do would be IMPOSSIBLE. If you took a guy and he trained absolutely perfect, ate absolutely the right diet and was suspended in a hammock between workouts like a Wagyu beef cow taking 23 hours a day naps he wouldn't get that big that quickly. Genetics can play a part but if Reem had a freakish body type that could pack on size like that he would have never been a LHW, and he was a skinny one at that.