All Time Great vs. 100 amateurs

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    In Kyokushin karate, top fighters are once in a while known to stage 100 man kumites (100 fights in a row against lower ranked opponents), and many do quite well.

    Which All Time Great fighter would you pick to have the most success in 100 3-round fights in a row against golden gloves competitors from his own weightclass? (Professional rules would be used).
     
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  2. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    In my opinion there are two key factors,
    1/ Conditioning
    2/ The ability to dispose of opponents quickly

    Considering this, I have to go with Rocky Marciano, 43 knockouts in 49 fights, who says "Why box with a guy with ten rounds when you can knock him out in one?". Rocky didn't mess around.

    His relentless pressure would crush any amateur very quickly, and even if he tired, which had yet to be seen over 15 rounds, his heart would see him through
     
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  3. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    By the way that is pretty interesting, I used to do kyokushin myself but never had the chance to take on 100 opponents ;)
     
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  4. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed with Jeffries. Stamina, power, strength, and several 20 round fights -that's experience that Foreman et al. didn't have.
     
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  5. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson would knock each one out in about 30 seconds he's great against lower level opposition he could make a few hours work of it.
     
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  6. Muchmoore

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    Tyson wasnt an awesome amatuer though because of his style. Although I would be tempted to pick Tyson as well. Holyfield is also a great choice.
     
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  7. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeh but tyson pro would be far too strong and advanced for any to compete - to beat a prime tyson you have to be experienced, physically strong and developed and show no fear. most amatuers would be shitting themselves and would fall within 30 seconds. you might get the odd one that survives round one, but generally they would all go first round.
     
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  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jefferies seems a good choice, although he lacked that true cracking one shot power

    Tyson, by simply standing there and saying "I'll **** you till you love me ******", that would seem to discourage the amateurs

    Maybe Frazier for his indominanble will, and beyond suffecient power.
     
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  9. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    John L. Sullivan could of knocked most of them out early with his rushes.
     
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  10. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson- His aggressive style, speed and power would dispose of many opponents rather quickly.

    Holyfield- Stamina, underrated power and determination will see him through many fights.
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You would need: power at the weight, fearlessness, stamina, serious intimadtion and a very, very macho attitude.

    I pick Duran at lightweight. He would terrify the amatuer opposition and wouldn't get hit a lot. He'd be perfect. And he would never, ever give up (unless he shat himself :D )
     
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  12. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Hank Armstrong.
     
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  13. Jupiter1610

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    Anyone else think Jack Dempsey has a good shot at this? He was certainly tough enough and his aggressive starts would make for few fights that went the full three rounds.

    As for the ones already mentioned, Holyfield is a top contender. Tyson also has the potential to make this a feast.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Everyone seems to want to pick a heavyweight. They're the WORST equipped for this kind of thing, even the great ones. Even if they knock, say, 50% of these guys out, it's still a lot of rounds for a big guy to do.

    180 ish.

    Powerful guys at smaller weights are the ideal choices.
     
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  15. KOTF

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    Thomas Hearns
    Julian Jackson
    Roberto Duran
     
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