Liston wasn't knocked out until his fight with Ali, at that point he was significantly older than when Marciano retired. Ali while not a true...
Hmmm... I could see the likes of Marvin Hart and Tommy Burns certainly losing by KO. Probably Corbett too. Fitz while small had the power and...
Schmelling at his best would get the win, but by this point, Schmelling was clearly aging and somewhat inactive, so I think Farr can pull this off
He was smaller, but Liston was a far harder hitter, far more technically sound, and was overall in a far different league than either Willard or...
Literally all the greats you mention Rocky beating were at that age or older, except Charles who was a light heavyweight and was hardly a great...
I would imagine Douglas being ground down by Marciano and KO'd late after a very competitive fight, but when I said Lesser men I meant lesser than...
Great points, and it's certainly arguable that if Tyson hadn't been going through the stresses involving Rooney, his marriage etc, and trained he...
I was only referring to Douglas, didn't realize I used men not man
I didn't mention Williams, and I wouldn't dare use him as an example of Tyson's lack of skill.
He wasn't just old and past it, he had been retired for three and a half years living the Hollywood life. His style was reliant on footwork and...
But we are discussing the Liston of the Ali fight, whose reflexes and stamina had diminished noticeably. How much of a difference do you suppose...
Prime for Prime, sure, but does the Liston of the night of the Ali fight who was aging, more prone to gassing, and underestimating his opponent...
Sure, but Liston was no Willard/Canera, and Rocky no Louis/Dempsey.
Dempsey was hardly crude, his style was quite sophisticated revolving around his defensive bobbing and weaving and sporadic head movement. A fine...
If Marciano beat a prime Joe Louis, a prime Archie Moore (LH) and a prime Joe Walcott (also LH), I would be more apt to agree with you. In fact,...
