"got decimated by Charles" so did a lot of other fighters. Charles is obviously the better fighter, but how many could actually edge out a close...
I would certainly consider Nat Fleischer a decent judge of fights. This is what he wrote in The Ring: "It was a savage, bruising hurting fight,...
Matthews defeated Layne in 1952 and Layne came out of that year ranked as the #2 contender.
I respect your list, but "Matthews doesn't even make it" doesn't alter the fact that he beat your #7 man (and also your #2 man when both were...
We should agree to disagree because I don't consider the Fox fight a fake result. If a fighter enters the ring supposedly to give his best and...
I don't give a fighter any credit for taking a dive. I think winning the fight in the ring but getting screwed out of an earned decision is a...
I like this post, but off film Belloise doesn't doesn't look like a come forward fighter, or at least only a come forward fighter. He looks more...
"Belloise was a come forward fighter" Off the limited footage I have been able to see, against Stock and sparring with Villemain, Belloise...
I don't accept those two fights as equivalent. The Fox fight is an outright and bad defeat. LaMotta later admitted he threw the fight in...
I thought it would be interesting to compare Belloise and LaMotta 1946 to June of 1949 records. Belloise 1946--17 wins 1 loss 12 KO's--after...
Everyone can judge for themselves. Here is what boxrec has to say about it: Referee Harry Ebbetts-----6-4-2 (LaMotta) Judge Harold...
Belloise has pretty impressive ratings in the 1940's 1940-----#5 1941-----#6 1942-----doesn't fight--in Navy 1943-----#5 1944-----in Navy...
"Belloise had done little, if anything at all, more than LaMotta" He beat Villemain decisively, and hadn't yet lost to a Euro second stringer...
Fine post--one nitpick--Belloise fought twice for a title against Overlin in 1940, but I don't think that is relevant to whether or not he was the...
"Graziano shouldn't crack any top 50 middleweight list" I have no problem with this. "he pulled out of a NYSC title elimination match in '46"...
